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Lucern · 05-29-2007, 09:30 PM

Just needed to see one person who cared lol

. Let's start with Daggerfall. I had Arena working a few months ago, but I need to double check to offer anything worthwhile. There's a lot here, Add with Wizard Open up this page, which got me 90but it doesn't take all of that long. If you're running a 64 bit OS...there will be hiccups, apparently. Some of this may be redundant, but you know what they say about 'if it ain't broke..." [img]smile.gif[/img]

I'm running, fyi, a Windows XP SP2 on a Pentium D 2.6 ghz dual core, a P5WDG2-WS motherboard, with a Delta 44 M-Audio sound card, 2 gigs of DDR2 800 RAM, and a Radeon X1800 GTO graphics card.

Alright, here's what I did, twice.

1) Get Dosbox .70, and install it. Every version is a bit different, and this is the newest one.
http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/news.php?show_news=1

2) Get DFend - a Dosbox Front END (There are others, ones who have updated to .70, but what I've got works). This makes DosBox easier to cope with, and it has the added bonus of allowing us to create a unique Daggerfall configuration that coexists with others. The alternative is having a daggerfall-only installation of DosBox, which is less desirable to me.
http://members.home.nl/mabus/dfend.htm (I'm using the 2nd from the top, V2). Start it up, tell it where DosBox is.

3)Get Ykhwong's DosBox CVS linked here. This jumpstarts the speed of the game using features that aren't in the normal dosbox.
http://ykhwong.x-y.net/cvs/frame.html

Install it using the page below as a guideline if there's no read.me. If you can launch DosBox and see windows you haven't seen before, it's probably working.
http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=9306=

4) Alright, you need just a few more things before you can begin to put it all together. There's a program you can use to install Daggerfall properly, released by Bethesda, carried only by Fileplanet. Get the Daggerfall XP Installer, here:
http://www.fileplanet.com/114400/110...erfall-Install
If you're like me, prepare to wait [img]tongue.gif[/img] . Run that, and it'll unpack a full daggerfall installation onto C:\Dagger. I believe this would be enough to run Daggerfall were you to double click the dagger.exe, but we're going for gold here.

5) Now we're going to do away with the need for the CD - DosBox has problems with it. Pop in the Daggerfall CD and go into the Arena 2 folder. Copy all of those files into the Arena 2 folder in C:/Dagger. This will move all of the movie files and sky files so that the program doesn't go looking for them. As an extra step, I downloaded a daggerfall no-cd patch. The file is called ME_DAGRF, and it came from here I believe: http://www.megagames.com/cracks/html/c30865_0.htm I haven't figured out whether the nocd is necessary. Copy it over anyway.

6) Let's make a special executable file for it. Click Start->Run->notepad, and paste this:

@echo off
set dos4gvm=@dagger.vmc
fall.exe z.cfg

Save it as Dag.bat

Okay, it's not an .exe, but it works like one. You've just made a batch file, which you can move over to the C:\Dagger folder.

7) Let's set up your DFend Daggerfall Profile. Open up DFEND. Click Profile->Add with Wizard. Name it Daggerfall. Select dag.bat as the 'Game EXE'. Ignore setup for now, and click right through the next page. We'll correct all of this with relative ease in a minute. On the next page hit 'auto-create' and forward, and click your way through to the end, using all defaults. This gave us a Daggerfall-only .conf file.

8) This page got me 90% of the way there: http://www.oblivionsource.com/?page=...&op=view&id=34

Open up the above page and you'll find 2 things that we need to copy into 2 separate files. Let's start with the daggerfall.conf which we just made - it should be in your DosBox .70 folder. Edit that - open it as a notepad, and from the page above, copy the big long set of instructions after the word COPY (the second word COPY, in fact). Make sure you don't end up with the smaller instruction set in there (after the first COPY). Save it.

Now let's use the other one. Open C:\Dagger, and edit the Z.CFG file, just as the website says. Copy the identical words over, just in case it's much different (This is more of a double-check). We need to change the 'pathcd' to say c:\Dagger\Arena 2, identical, in fact, to the path. Save that, too.

9) Alright, unless I forgot something, I believe we're almost there. Let's get sound. Go into C:/Dagger, and double click on 'setup'. Choose the soundblaster Pro for both "select digital" and "Select MIDI". It doesn't matter what it sounds like, this is more to give DosBox help in emulating it. Mine actally isn't quite there on movie clips, but I've learned to deal, because I have a fancy/shmancy recording audio card that I'm amazed even runs games [img]smile.gif[/img]

10) Back to DFEND - Edit the Daggerfall profile to check a few things. Go to Mounting, click the C:\ from the list and Edit. Select the mount type to "Drive", the drive to C:\, disable the input/output control, and use C as the mounted drive letter.
Under General, I wouldn't start fullscreen, but use Aspect Correction, lock the mouse, and use scan codes.
In Environment, make sure it's getting 16 mb of Dos memory, EMS, and XMS. Make sure the CPU is 'normal', and the CPU cycles are like 20,000.

11) So close! I hope anyway. At last, double click the daggerfall profile in DFEND, and you should get a long list of Dos commands, and the game should start very slowly. Under the GUI, click CPU, and go to Max cycles. If it worked, enjoy! If it didn't, we'll regroup and try again.

Push Alt-Enter to bring it to full screen.

You might try Hexen again with this new build (and a new profile in DFend, of course. Blast the Cycles up to 20,000 and, if it's slow, max the CPU cycles with that too.

05-29-2007, 09:30 PM	#3
Lucern Quintesson Join Date: August 28, 2004 Location: the middle of Michigan Age: 43 Posts: 1,011	Just needed to see one person who cared lol . Let's start with Daggerfall. I had Arena working a few months ago, but I need to double check to offer anything worthwhile. There's a lot here, Add with Wizard Open up this page, which got me 90but it doesn't take all of that long. If you're running a 64 bit OS...there will be hiccups, apparently. Some of this may be redundant, but you know what they say about 'if it ain't broke..." [img]smile.gif[/img] I'm running, fyi, a Windows XP SP2 on a Pentium D 2.6 ghz dual core, a P5WDG2-WS motherboard, with a Delta 44 M-Audio sound card, 2 gigs of DDR2 800 RAM, and a Radeon X1800 GTO graphics card. Alright, here's what I did, twice. 1) Get Dosbox .70, and install it. Every version is a bit different, and this is the newest one. http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/news.php?show_news=1 2) Get DFend - a Dosbox Front END (There are others, ones who have updated to .70, but what I've got works). This makes DosBox easier to cope with, and it has the added bonus of allowing us to create a unique Daggerfall configuration that coexists with others. The alternative is having a daggerfall-only installation of DosBox, which is less desirable to me. http://members.home.nl/mabus/dfend.htm (I'm using the 2nd from the top, V2). Start it up, tell it where DosBox is. 3)Get Ykhwong's DosBox CVS linked here. This jumpstarts the speed of the game using features that aren't in the normal dosbox. http://ykhwong.x-y.net/cvs/frame.html Install it using the page below as a guideline if there's no read.me. If you can launch DosBox and see windows you haven't seen before, it's probably working. http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=9306= 4) Alright, you need just a few more things before you can begin to put it all together. There's a program you can use to install Daggerfall properly, released by Bethesda, carried only by Fileplanet. Get the Daggerfall XP Installer, here: http://www.fileplanet.com/114400/110...erfall-Install If you're like me, prepare to wait [img]tongue.gif[/img] . Run that, and it'll unpack a full daggerfall installation onto C:\Dagger. I believe this would be enough to run Daggerfall were you to double click the dagger.exe, but we're going for gold here. 5) Now we're going to do away with the need for the CD - DosBox has problems with it. Pop in the Daggerfall CD and go into the Arena 2 folder. Copy all of those files into the Arena 2 folder in C:/Dagger. This will move all of the movie files and sky files so that the program doesn't go looking for them. As an extra step, I downloaded a daggerfall no-cd patch. The file is called ME_DAGRF, and it came from here I believe: http://www.megagames.com/cracks/html/c30865_0.htm I haven't figured out whether the nocd is necessary. Copy it over anyway. 6) Let's make a special executable file for it. Click Start->Run->notepad, and paste this: @echo off set dos4gvm=@dagger.vmc fall.exe z.cfg Save it as Dag.bat Okay, it's not an .exe, but it works like one. You've just made a batch file, which you can move over to the C:\Dagger folder. 7) Let's set up your DFend Daggerfall Profile. Open up DFEND. Click Profile->Add with Wizard. Name it Daggerfall. Select dag.bat as the 'Game EXE'. Ignore setup for now, and click right through the next page. We'll correct all of this with relative ease in a minute. On the next page hit 'auto-create' and forward, and click your way through to the end, using all defaults. This gave us a Daggerfall-only .conf file. 8) This page got me 90% of the way there: http://www.oblivionsource.com/?page=...&op=view&id=34 Open up the above page and you'll find 2 things that we need to copy into 2 separate files. Let's start with the daggerfall.conf which we just made - it should be in your DosBox .70 folder. Edit that - open it as a notepad, and from the page above, copy the big long set of instructions after the word COPY (the second word COPY, in fact). Make sure you don't end up with the smaller instruction set in there (after the first COPY). Save it. Now let's use the other one. Open C:\Dagger, and edit the Z.CFG file, just as the website says. Copy the identical words over, just in case it's much different (This is more of a double-check). We need to change the 'pathcd' to say c:\Dagger\Arena 2, identical, in fact, to the path. Save that, too. 9) Alright, unless I forgot something, I believe we're almost there. Let's get sound. Go into C:/Dagger, and double click on 'setup'. Choose the soundblaster Pro for both "select digital" and "Select MIDI". It doesn't matter what it sounds like, this is more to give DosBox help in emulating it. Mine actally isn't quite there on movie clips, but I've learned to deal, because I have a fancy/shmancy recording audio card that I'm amazed even runs games [img]smile.gif[/img] 10) Back to DFEND - Edit the Daggerfall profile to check a few things. Go to Mounting, click the C:\ from the list and Edit. Select the mount type to "Drive", the drive to C:\, disable the input/output control, and use C as the mounted drive letter. Under General, I wouldn't start fullscreen, but use Aspect Correction, lock the mouse, and use scan codes. In Environment, make sure it's getting 16 mb of Dos memory, EMS, and XMS. Make sure the CPU is 'normal', and the CPU cycles are like 20,000. 11) So close! I hope anyway. At last, double click the daggerfall profile in DFEND, and you should get a long list of Dos commands, and the game should start very slowly. Under the GUI, click CPU, and go to Max cycles. If it worked, enjoy! If it didn't, we'll regroup and try again. Push Alt-Enter to bring it to full screen. You might try Hexen again with this new build (and a new profile in DFend, of course. Blast the Cycles up to 20,000 and, if it's slow, max the CPU cycles with that too.