Okay ... For the Invisibility ? .... Just like DnD, once you take action, you become visible (I never use this cause I have a 100 pt Chameleon pendant). So this is only useful for moving undetected, not thieving.
For the Chameleon ? It just decreases your chance of being seen. It does not increase your chances of succeeding. Also if you pick a lock while under this spell and you are NOT sneaking - even though they don't see you, the crime is reported. (I know ...(?)). Holding sneak under this spell almost garuantees avoiding detection. Check for the sneak icon.
As for picking pockets .... even though you succeed, you may be caught - you need a REALLY high sneak/security (yup both) score to pick pockets undetected.
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