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Lavindathar's right Tiamat, and saying that they use Arcana you don't know about doesn't make them uber, it just means you should ask politley or find out for yourself.
I mean, I don't play PnP, the closest I've ever come is CRPG's and this board, and plenty others haven't either, it's no excuse.
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Resident cantankerous sorcerer of the Clan HADB<br />and Sorcerous Nuttella salesman of the O.R.T<br />  <br /><br />Say NO to the Trouser Tyranny! Can I drill you about this?
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