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Originally posted by Faceman:
If you're talking rogue and meaning THIEF I can imagine soloing without too cheesy tactics and completely without cheating.
Ignore lockpick/pickpocket/detect trap skills and concentrate on stealth and set traps.
Typical thief tactic is to hide in Shadows, backstab, run away (even without Speedboots this can be accomplished if you manage to hide behind a corner or a door and hide in Shadows again fast enough) hide in Shadows again and continue backstabbing (you could also use Invis. Potions, but you just don't have endless supply of them).
For creatures immune to backstab (Beholders, Dragons Golems) it is -> set a lot of traps and lure the foe to them to take him out (if you don't want to set them at his spawning point, which would be cheesy tactic again).
I'm merely trying to get the ppl who have said they soloed those characters -thieves- to explain how so in order for the rest of us to properly know which is a tough mofo class to solo. Magic helps out hands down. I can solo no question with a mage- but without a bag of holding? Probably would be 10 times more difficult. Probably. So, if my solo game called for me using a cheat, why not just bring the bag into my 6 party games. Same difference. Let me just SK in a boots of speed and hrm, what else, of yes, 1,000 invis potions, 500 pro undead scrolls and what else to help me solo here?
It's one thing when you yourself know that you've soloed the whole game. It's another to do it in a manner consisting of cheating and cheesing. It's also a problem when you have ppl who haven't soloed that class telling other ppl it's possible. That to me is a BIG no-no. If you have read some of my posts and replies, I don't actually take word from someone just because he said it, especially when I'm competent and playing the SAME game. So naturally I have my doubts.
If we are saying that solo games require certain items to be brought in and not acquired in-game, then of course a person can solo to his heart's content.
About the thief, there is the demon you need to get the heart from for the planar sphere quest. He/It is IMMUNE to snare dmg(believe me, I've tried...this is one reason why I chose a bounty hunter instead of a mage - mages are way more powerful in handling adversary). This is not the only creature immune to snare dmg. So using that as the back-up killer of everything tactic is out. What else does the thief have to get that heart? Meleeing the demon is um, well you should know. Of course any solo thief who found himself in the planar sphere WILL have to get that heart. I doubt you can pickpocket it LOL. [img]smile.gif[/img] This can be said for any hack and slash character.
BTW, there is this one trap that killed my bounty hunter. There was no way around it but lucky me I can disarm. I can't say the same for others who can't diarm since they spent all those points in hide... also, if it's a berserker going thru that trap, good luck. MR can help here but without it...heh.
I've also tried soloing my bounty hunter with his "special traps" in Nalia's Keep. I did the run around corner bit to help, but the purpose of it is futile. Try waiting for hp to get back up to attack that same troll. If we are talking about the same thing, then I see problems becuase I've tried it. Ever slept in Nalia's keep or slept outside to get awakened by 4-5 Yuan tis? Try having to sleep for 5 times and all those times, those lizards pop up. I doubt this only happens in my games too.
About mind flayers, have you seen the room in the temple sewers? @_@ This is one room I was spooked in. Try backstabbing one to watch as the others creep around you, even as you gulp down that potion. Sometimes, I would have 5 npcs around me and I can't move out. Heh.
Aerie has no problem until she comes across something with a high MR and she can't muscle her way to beat it down. She can cloudkill lame or throw in summoned fodder to buy time. What does a melee type person have? Not a whole lot and if he doesn't have the right +3 or +4, +5 weapons, then he's in poopoo.
So, if anyone asks me, I'd say a person who can't rely on magic is going to be very tough to play solo. I say this only because I've had questions and have tried many things. I'd also repeat that I'm against the idea of having ppl say it's doable when they haven't tried it themselves thru the whole game. You can solo some areas -I said this already- but I find it hard to swallow that it can be done legitly in all areas of the game. And I have come across quite a few posts where ppl are claiming such either from what they have heard others say or from their small time playing that class in some areas and not all. I know you have to pick and choose your fights to a certain degree to lvl up to knock your ac and saves down. this has been brought up before and even then, ppl claim all areas are doable.
Well anyhows, I don't wanna step on ppl's toes or go against their assumptions, but I will have my doubts until it's proven. I wouldn't expect any less from fellow players.