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Starkiller · 07-24-2001, 08:53 PM

Hmmm...I think everyone here has valid comments, we are talking about powergaming versus roleplaying, but lets be honest and put things in perspective. We are playing a computer game here, it is not pnp, and therefor how when you say "roleplay" it has a slightly different meaning. Sure, you can stay in character, and roleplay to an extent, but when everyone you are interacting with is computer controlled it is not the same, there is an element of powergaming inherent in single player computer game rpgs that is not present in pnp rpgs, namely: you are the main character, and the quests get harder and longer with the intent of you getting more baddass, and it be very cool and cinematic if you kick ass, unlike in pnp, in which if one player imported an amazing character everyone else would be pissed and have nothing to do. Trying to REALLY roleplay in a single player game is kind of like going to that automated hall of the presidents place in Disney World and trying to have an authentic 19th century conversation with one of them even though all their speeches are preprogrammed. Its a little silly when you think about it. That said, I never really saw the fun in running through a game with a god-like character since the challenge is gone. I mean re importing 10 times?! No, to answer your question it is not technically cheating, but it is the kind of story that will make most gamers roll their eyes and smile politely. I personally ran through the game, and have now imported the charcter ONCE, simply because I wanted to play through the whole game with ToB installed to see what, if any changes were made, and I have already noticed some dialouge thats different. I find having my charcter is just a lot less tedious since I want to run through the first part quickly, and I want it to be MY character, IE the one that ran through BG1 and 2, and I had no other saved games except with way low xp to import from, and they did not have all the spells in my spell book and such which I had worked so hard for. It is a choice also, since some of my stats were lowered from my previous playthrough, and I know they will be lowered again, but basically I am saying that both sides have valid points and we should all stop arguing and post the locations of legendary items on my other post....hehe

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07-24-2001, 08:53 PM	#12
Starkiller The Magister Join Date: July 4, 2001 Location: New York, NY, USA Posts: 149	Hmmm...I think everyone here has valid comments, we are talking about powergaming versus roleplaying, but lets be honest and put things in perspective. We are playing a computer game here, it is not pnp, and therefor how when you say "roleplay" it has a slightly different meaning. Sure, you can stay in character, and roleplay to an extent, but when everyone you are interacting with is computer controlled it is not the same, there is an element of powergaming inherent in single player computer game rpgs that is not present in pnp rpgs, namely: you are the main character, and the quests get harder and longer with the intent of you getting more baddass, and it be very cool and cinematic if you kick ass, unlike in pnp, in which if one player imported an amazing character everyone else would be pissed and have nothing to do. Trying to REALLY roleplay in a single player game is kind of like going to that automated hall of the presidents place in Disney World and trying to have an authentic 19th century conversation with one of them even though all their speeches are preprogrammed. Its a little silly when you think about it. That said, I never really saw the fun in running through a game with a god-like character since the challenge is gone. I mean re importing 10 times?! No, to answer your question it is not technically cheating, but it is the kind of story that will make most gamers roll their eyes and smile politely. I personally ran through the game, and have now imported the charcter ONCE, simply because I wanted to play through the whole game with ToB installed to see what, if any changes were made, and I have already noticed some dialouge thats different. I find having my charcter is just a lot less tedious since I want to run through the first part quickly, and I want it to be MY character, IE the one that ran through BG1 and 2, and I had no other saved games except with way low xp to import from, and they did not have all the spells in my spell book and such which I had worked so hard for. It is a choice also, since some of my stats were lowered from my previous playthrough, and I know they will be lowered again, but basically I am saying that both sides have valid points and we should all stop arguing and post the locations of legendary items on my other post....hehe ------------------ "Not everything ends the way you think it should"