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Originally posted by Elhardo: you dont actually need to fight them.... In the courtyard there are 4 dogs that turn hostile...Kill them and take the meat off their corpses, then use them on the stove in the ground floor on the Keep, ( near the functioning stairs ) This makes a dog stew... When you get to the room with Umber Hulks, either cast improved invisibily on a character, or hide from shadows, then walk through ( with the rest of the team hidden behid the door, so the Hulks dont attack...Through the room with the Hulks there should be a corridor going left, reach the end of that and you'll find a tunnel they dug in through, place the Stew in the ground (it will hack an iventory box like a shelf) Then get your man out and close the doors.....You'll understand it when you get there.... Otherwise, it's easy to kill them by letting 1 or 2 through then closing the door behind them...Then you only need to kill a couple at a time...

Yes you are right that is the best way. I forgot about that.