Actually, I didn't get either of those reflective items. I HATED those dungeons because of it. Played with someone online, and it was Waaaay too easy with it. Kinda made it not challenging for us, and took away some of the fun. I think they are harder in PnP but without those items, they are still plenty hard to beat. Good Luck
BK
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