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Vaskez · 01-18-2002, 07:55 AM

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Originally posted by strangelove:
I'm curious if the infinity engine treats magic immunity and magic resistance differently. I'll have to check the old Monster Manual when I get home to verify, but I believe clay golems are actually immune to magic. This implies there is no resistance to lower, it just doesn't affect them at all, period. I do know they are traditionally the toughest of the golems, because very few things can hurt them (only blunt magical items +2 or better iirc) and they can haste themselves. In BG2, Iron and Adamantite Golems are bigger, with more hp, but clay golems in good old PnP AD&D are very, very nasty.
-sb

I can tell you that IE does in fact treat MR and Magic Immunity differently. MR is given as a percentage and is stored as a creature statistic, while Magic immunity is applied as a permanent spell effect onto a creature with a parameter setting the level of spell to be immune to. For example, Liches have 5 effects making them immune to spell levels 1 to 5. TO be honest I can't remember off the top of my head, but I think Clay Golems only have magic resistance. I'd have to check when I get home.
How do you know his MR wasn't lowered anyway? Maybe you lowered it to 80% and he still resisted your spell (very likely).
The only way you could check in-game is to press ctrl+q on him when cheats are enabled and get him into your party and check his stats.
Pierce Magic should ignore MR and I doubt there is a bug in your game because then others would have found this bug long before (remember the game has been out for nearly 1.5 years.)

01-18-2002, 07:55 AM	#10
Vaskez Takhisis Follower Join Date: April 30, 2001 Location: szép Magyarország (well not right now) Posts: 5,089	quote: Originally posted by strangelove: I'm curious if the infinity engine treats magic immunity and magic resistance differently. I'll have to check the old Monster Manual when I get home to verify, but I believe clay golems are actually immune to magic. This implies there is no resistance to lower, it just doesn't affect them at all, period. I do know they are traditionally the toughest of the golems, because very few things can hurt them (only blunt magical items +2 or better iirc) and they can haste themselves. In BG2, Iron and Adamantite Golems are bigger, with more hp, but clay golems in good old PnP AD&D are very, very nasty. -sb I can tell you that IE does in fact treat MR and Magic Immunity differently. MR is given as a percentage and is stored as a creature statistic, while Magic immunity is applied as a permanent spell effect onto a creature with a parameter setting the level of spell to be immune to. For example, Liches have 5 effects making them immune to spell levels 1 to 5. TO be honest I can't remember off the top of my head, but I think Clay Golems only have magic resistance. I'd have to check when I get home. How do you know his MR wasn't lowered anyway? Maybe you lowered it to 80% and he still resisted your spell (very likely). The only way you could check in-game is to press ctrl+q on him when cheats are enabled and get him into your party and check his stats. Pierce Magic should ignore MR and I doubt there is a bug in your game because then others would have found this bug long before (remember the game has been out for nearly 1.5 years.) __________________ Too set in his ways to ever relate If he could set that aside, there'd be heaven to pay But weathered and aged, time swept him to grave Love conquers all? Damn, I'd say that area's gray