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Old 01-10-2002, 01:09 PM   #3
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Join Date: March 17, 2001
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It sounds like what you're describing is an "evil" party where "evil" means working against the legal interests of the various communities. You're right, there's not much of that in BG2 (though you can kill the dragon in the Underdark, slay the elves protecting the pass, etc). But if get a very low rep, you naturally have to expect shopkeepers to close their doors, and guards to attack you. The benefits of evil rampaging are certain powerful choices in Hell, and lots of experience and loot (not limited to only the other evil folks you kill).

BG2 sees evil more in terms of self-interest. For example:

Korgan doesn't mind doing things that help others, provided the party gets some material wealth out of the matter at the end. (In fact, I wish they'd stressed this more. His own quest does it, and he talks about it, but I'd love to see him belabor you if an entire quest yielded less wealth than he would have liked.)

Edwin just wants powerful artifacts and spells that will raise him to his rightful place as a ruler among the Red Mages. His quest is very item-specific, as a result.

Saverok (in ToB) wants to join you because he loves rampaging, cruelty, violence, etc, and you seem to bring that in your wake. His selfishness consists in satisfying his gluttony for brutality.

Or as Brenda Garno once put it in a Wizardry manual, many years ago: A good party will help a little old lady cross the street. A neutral party will do it if they're going the same way. An evil party will do it, if they're paid enough.

If you want to take the evil-against-society tack, I suggest you play Fallout 1 & 2, and Arcanum. These games let you choose whether to achieve your final goal while being a World Savior or the World's Number One Badd*ss. In one of my Arcanum run-throughs with a neutral magic-casting elf leading my party, I was actually approached by a member of a local thieves guild (which was a game element that hadn't even been mentioned, except as a joke, before then) who wanted me to run a mission of theft in exchange for a series of valuable maps and future missions. Priceless fun. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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