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I once had a party without magic-users (Bard, Gadgy, Rogue, Fighter). Then I won wit a pure magic party ( no fighters or hybrids )
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@ Loudhy; i don't consider a party with a Gad or Bard to be non-magic-using. Try this one, which i finished on Normal, with only one reload due to deaths: 2 Rawulf Fighters and a Faerie Rogue.
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Granted I'm still on my first party and their average level is 18. But I've just recently fought my way (expert difficulty) through Rapax Rift, Rapax Courtyard and Rapax Castle to get to Ferro. ( Let me tell you keeping Ferro alive during the huge Rapax Castle battle wasn't easy )
My Group
- 18th level Dwarf Valkryie
- 18th level Elf Samurai
- 18th level Human Monk
- 18th level Hobbit Ranger
- 19th level Mook Bard-Fighter (18-1)
- 17th level Faeire Bishop
- 18th level Higardi Valkryie under a constant hex effect
- 16th level Android Monk
Anyway at one point a group of Rapax came up behind me in Rapax Rift consisting of....
- 8 Beserkers
- 6 Priestesses
- 6 Samurai
- 6 Warlocks
I didn't see them coming till they were already in spell range, and it was an open area so all spellcasters had a clear shot.
My first actions were to have the speed happy monk and samurai cast soul shield and elemental shield before the enemy spellcasters could get off a single shot. The bard-fighter tried to get a few with Freeze All and the Bishop cast a full power Haste. Vi Blessed the group and everyone else tried a few early distance weapon shots. In the first round the beserkers surrounded the group but the elemental shield and soul shield managed to keep it from being crippled by status effects.
Fighting off the beserkers was harrowing. The bishop's(over 100 powercast) repeated Freeze Flesh casting managed to take out only two. Meanwhile a few status effects from the enemy spellcasters took hold despite my protective spells. To add insult to injury the enemy spellcasters cast a wide variety of heal and protective spells on the Beserkers. It was only due to the power of the fighter types. ( who scored a couple vital critical strikes and knock out hits ) that everyone managed to survive.
Once the beserkers were dealt with it was simply a matter of wiping out the spell-casters. Forunately with full spell defenses up, they simply lacked the damage capabilities to harm the group faster than my bard-fighter could heal them.
How the heck do you win that battle with a pure fighter or pure spell caster game? I've never been able to significant widespread damage or status effects to Rapax with spells. ( even the bishop with a powercast over 100 ) Spellcasters would be worn down and beaten. As for the no-magic game wouldn't the spellcasters just bombard you with Hex, Paralyzation, Noxious fumes, etc. spells? Without Magic Screen, Elemental Shield and Soul Shield wouldn't the party be rendered helpless within a few rounds? Heck once the magic resists go down fireball and crush spells really start piling on the damage.
So my question is how do you win with a no-magic party? or with a no-warrior party?
[ 06-22-2004, 10:57 AM: Message edited by: booklord ]