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If you do the umpani-t'rang alliance after becoming templar, you will make the rapax hostile, and don't get the conversation.
If you don't do the alliance, and the rapax are still friendly to you, you get the speech.
If you do the alliance before becomning templar, and keey friendly relations to the rapax when you're templar, the rapax army won't be at ascension peak.
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