[allstargoaly]

I agree with that wereboar. I'm just saying that "fang" and "sting" are kind of alike. They're both good weapons, they have a one word name (which the names to me seem very close), and the "fang" can be used by a hobbit/rogue.

The two weapons are so close togehter that fang was the only weapon that looked/sounded like sting. Plus if you remember well, daggers do bismal damage compared to swords. I mean the highest stats for daggers is 5-14. The fang does 8-20!!! True hobbits in the story didn't use human swords. But (if you are trying to duplicate Tolkin) Aragorn isn't a lord, Legolas isn't a ranger, and Frodo wasn't much of a theif/rogue.

It goes back to my original theory. If you want a TRUE LOTR party, it quite impossible to create in wiz8. If you want a party that has many similarities (but breaks the rules) then you have a chance.

I stand by my original party and this is why...

Aragorn: Ranger
Legolas: Samuri
Gimli: Fighter
Gandalf: Bishop
Frodo: Rogue
Sam: Bard

Aragron is a ranger!!! Lords are the "true crusaders" of wiz8. Crusaders were men who fought in the name of their religion (like in the CRUSADES, crusaders fought in the name of Christ/GOD). Where in Tolkin's writings is there any mention of Aragorn being a "crusader"? Aragorn is a ranger (Tolkin said that himself)!!! I mean it isn't like he doesn't know how to use a bow. Plus, rangers learn Alchemy spells. If you remember correctly, Frodo was stabbed by a "Morgul" blade. Aragorn didn't cast a "healing spell" on Frodo to cure him; he looked for the plant called "kingsfoil" and used it to "slow the poison". Isn't Alchemy the art of mixing potions and "herb/plants" togehter for usage (mostly for medical treatment, hmmmm...). Aragorn is a ranger!!!

Legolas is NOT a ranger!!! Legolas does know how to use a bow, but there are some swords that a ranger can't even use (broadsword, ench. broadsword, walriblade, etc.) You would have to wait until later in the game to even get a half way decent sword and you can only use ONE. Basically, there are no professions that allow you to use dual swords (except for the samuri). Don't get me wrong, a samuri is a little far fetched, but not as far fetched as a ranger. Again, Legoals isn't a ranger!!! Say you want to make Legolas a ranger... what two swords can you use to duplicate his "twin elvsih blades"? There are NONE!!! You would have to use daggers. And as I previously stated, daggers are weak compared to swords. Samuri not only have twin blades; they can also equip nearly all bows and cast Mage spells. Like Arwen at the river (1st book), she didn't cast an Alchemy spell, she "sent" a huge wave of water that swept up the Nazgul. And by the way, Legolas was not a ranger in the books/movie. Tolkin nevered stated that Legolas was a ranger. He might share the same traits as a one, but if you want to get as close as possible to Tolkin, Legolas is NOT a ranger!!!

Gimli is a fighter. Everyone got that one correct.

Gandalf, is really questionable. I put down bishop and no one really has a problem with that.

Frodo... I mean rogue is good, but if you are going to argue that Aragorn is a lord and Legolas is a ranger then WHY would Frodo be a theif? I mean come on; Frodo didn't really steal anything. And he wasn't good at picking "magical locks". Good for dagger skill but there are no real good daggers. Geeze, just make him into a monk if you are going to make Legolas into a ranger (that way they can both be COMPLETELY WRONG).

I think everyone got Sam right. He is a bard. I mean he told stories (which was considered "singing" long ago [i.e. bard]) and he "boosted" the moral of the fellowship (mostly Frodo).


Once again, it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to make an exact copy of the fellowship in wiz8. You have to use your imagination and bend and/or break the darn rules. But if you are going to argue that Legolas is a ranger, Argorn is a lord, and Frodo is a rogue; then make Gandalf into a mook/gadgeteer (it makes about the same sense).

[ 09-22-2003, 02:03 PM: Message edited by: allstargoaly ]