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Yeah, M&M 9 was no good. The graphics in Wiz 8 may not be Doom III, but they're clean and do what they're meant to do. I got M&M 8, which wasn't bad, but it never hooked me in enough to complete it. The only two games to really hook me in were BG2 and Wiz8. Xcept for M&M6 and some of the ultimas, prolly the best 2 RPGs of all time, at least after '95.
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