[Gimli]

I've had little or no problems this time around against those little suckers. Here is what I do:

- have a full strength magic screen running before I engage them

- have chameleon running as well to be as close to them as possible before they notice me and go into combat

- round one, *important*, don't walk/run!! i've noticed when you do that your initiative is horrible. you'll be letting all of them cast things like haste, eye for an eye, or offensive spells at you, before you even get to move.

- instead, cast these 2 spells: insanity (my monk does it); and blinding flash (my bishop). have everyone else make their best ranged attacks, maybe have someone cast bless or haste, or some other buffing spell if you have it.

- round two, run in to melee range, then clean up! i took mostly 0 damage from them with my new party. if you don't have magic screen btw, go back to arnika and buy it in the temple from braffit, always, always cast it after you rest, should be up all the time..