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"If you take out the complex character making"
Um, RPG = Role Playing Game, if you can't make your own characters as completely as possible to match your desired adventuring party makeup, then you're left with the force-feed system that games like BG2 used (you make one character, the rest are pre-determined, all you can do is decide to keep them in the party or not, and even then that was not always the case).
Sorry, I have to disagree with you Ice3, Wizardry is one of the defining CRPGs with some 20 years of development (even before D&D was invented I believe).
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