~~merk~~
i don't usually go by time either, unless someone forces me. [img]tongue.gif[/img] ::staring right at you::
however, that said, usually by level 8, we poke our heads out of the door.
i just started a Magickal Mistress Tour (all spell casters of one sort or another) and they are making me nuts. every battle, it's the same thing. keep in mind, that this happens mid-battle.
"i'm tired"
"it's nappy-time now, m'kay?"
"if you don't let us rest, i swear, i'm gonna hide all your spellbooks!"
"slave mistress, have pity on your party!"
LOL. they aren't wusses, just inexperienced. oh yeah, i guess that DOES make them wusses.

anyway. it's very tough. i think i will be in for a couple, three months with them.
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