It's all in the first chapter of the Silmarillion...
I don't know, I had more trouble with that book than I did with Ulysses.
Considering that the geek factor in this thread has reached pandemic perportions, I'm not afraid to expose a little geekery myself (but I won't bite off chicken heads) in this debate...
However, I'd be way out of my depth, I know at best a part of 1/3 of the necessary information to develop a point of contention...
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