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Old 01-13-2004, 12:55 PM   #14
Thoran
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Join Date: January 10, 2002
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Originally posted by Morgeruat:
{nit-pick}It was Saurons Master that created Orcs, again it's been too long since I've read the Silmarillian to recall his name.

Also Nazgul are the ring wraiths, not their mounts, Dragon Highlords are a much better parallel than dragons.
Nazgul... yup (but I think we all knew what we were talking about), not sure if the flying mounts of the Nazgul were ever named. Anyone remember?

Saurons master was Melkior(or Morgoth, two names same guy). He created the Orcs early in the Silmarillion, just like I believe Mhanwe (sp?) created dwarves.

Uruk-hai were a cross of Orcs and Goblins if memory serves. Tancred corrected me that they were created by Sauron in the book... which I didn't recall since it's been a couple years since I read it.

I think the Dragon Highlord/Nazgul parallel is a good one... except for the fact that dragons are far more formidable than the mounts the Nazgul used. Nazgul mounted on dragons would have been an unstoppable force on Pellinor. The Elves of Belariand had lots of trouble with dragons. They got beat pretty soundly by Melkior in their last battle on Anfauglith when the Dragons and other monsters took the field. It really took the Valar in the war of Wrath to clean house. At least that's how I recall it... the Silmarillion is a VERY long book, and dry as a popcorn fart.
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