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Old 05-22-2003, 07:25 PM   #52
Vaskez
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Originally posted by Azred:
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I personally don't like the idea that the "real world" in the movie is another Matrix. As far as the context and the world-design of the movie is concerned, it doesn't make any sense. If the "real world" is just another level of the Matrix, then why bother creating fake sentinel robots to hunt down humans? If someone thinks they have become unplugged and are causing a problem, then simply unplug them for real, dump the corpse, and grow two new humans to replace them.
The fact that merging with Smith has given Neo the ability to sense and effect machines in the real world is more intriguing, because now Neo can alter both the inner world of the Matrix and the real world. My only question is whether he got this ability from Smith or from the Oracle.... [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img]
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I just saw the film tonight - my first impression was that the only way Neo could detroy the Sentinels in the real world was if it WAS another layer of Matrix encompassing the first one. However I then spoke to my mates about it and we formulated another theory:
Say the real world is real...lets say Neo got his ability to effect machines from Smith. I didn't quite understand how Zion had been destroyed 5 times. What we decided was that they meant that every time it is destroyed, due to the imprefections of the Matrix, some new humans will always sense that it is not real and unplug themselves and build a new Zion. Thus the machines have to keep destroying it. They can never just wipe out the humans because they need them for power and the imprefections of the Matrix mean that somewhere some humans will always unplug themselves and build a new Zion? The One is just The Architect's way of controlling the inner Matrix. The Architect is just another machine/program?

I didn't quite understand the two doors thing at the end (can't remember exactly): one door meant the Matrix was reloaded and humanity was saved and the other meant Trinity was saved, or what was it? Bah! Can't remember and didn't quite get it to begin with.

What I'd really appreciate is if someone who thinks they understand what the filmmakers are trying to say, explained the whole thing about the 5 destructions of Zion and the bit about the Architect and how Neo was designed? I guess that all makes sense if the real world IS a shell Matrix. But if that's true I still don't remember/understand about what the two doors would do? Bah! I'm tired!


Some really interesting discussion guys [img]smile.gif[/img] That's what I always liked about these films - not the crazy action scenes and special effects but the way it actually makes you think so much about what the film is trying to say - films rarely do that [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 05-22-2003, 07:40 PM: Message edited by: Vaskez ]
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