[Ziroc]

Originally posted by Luvian: </font><blockquote>Quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ziroc: </font><blockquote>Quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Luvian: Well.. you can't expect much from Wizard of the Coast novels. Most of them are like that. Especially Forgotten Realms ones. Did you know that Forgotten Realms was really inspired from a gaming session? Elminster and all where really once pcs.

Um, Luv.. There are MANY Forgotten Realms novels that are EXCELLENT! The Drizzt Books, the Avatar Trilogy IS a great series and the follow up books are as well. I've read over 100 FR and DL novels, and yeah, some suck, but many of them are awesome.

Try the Icewind Dale Trilogy next. It's a classic series!</font>[/QUOTE]I've read them, I own the first 50 Forgotten Realms novels and the recent Elminster in Hell novel. I also own 3 Dragonlance novels and have read about all of Dragonlance series, too.

Sure, some are nice, but they are mostly time filler, none of them are masterpieces. There are some good ones, but if you compare them to the work of authors like Sara Douglass, George R.R. Martin, Terry Goodkinds, and some of the work of Robert Jordan, you can see a huge difference in quality. To me, it's like comparing a Buffy: The vampire slayer novel to a Stephen King novel. While buffy can be interesting, it lack the dept and quality found in a Stephen King novel.

Personally, I think the reason Wizard of the Coast novels can never be as good as "regular" novels, is because WotC novels are perceived as teen novels, and authors publishing for them are usually new or unknown authors that are starting out/ trying to make a name for themselves. No authors are going to create a masterpiece for them, they would most likely create one for TOR fantasy or another "big" fantasy publisher. There is also the fact that WotC release a new novel aabout every months or so. Rushed novels are never as good.

I think it's a shame. So, WotC is a targetting teens, but that doesn't mean teen can't enjoy or understand a complex novel. I wish a good author would write a good novel for them. It probably will never happen, thought. Writing a novel for an already established world, like Forgotten Realm or Dragonlance, seem very restricting, and I doubt Terry Goodking, for example, would ever want to work under such restrictions, if he ever felt like working fo them. WotC are also probably paying there authors a lot less than TOR does, so I doubt he would even consider it.</font>[/QUOTE]Forgotten Realms novels are not all for teens. So what you are saying though, is because they have the 'Dungeons & Dragons' label, they are for the more immature person? I hope not. I too have read 100's upon 100's of non Forgotten Realms novels, and I can tell you that many of those suck just as bad. The Icewind Dale Trilogy is classic. The Avatar series was as well (NY Times best sellers).

Just because a book is published with a name that stereotypically is for teens, does not mean it's written down to teens. Take the Harry Potter series for instance. DEFINITELY for teens (even pre-teens), yet it's one of the great set of books many have read.

Hell, when I was young, I read nearly ALL of the Hardy boys books [img]smile.gif[/img] but what I think people should do is like what they like. everyone is different. But don't say that they all suck and are for kids. That is not right, and not right to the Author. (Well, you can piss on Ed Greenwoods books) lol, Elminster in hell WAS sucky.