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Old 04-10-2003, 03:46 AM   #68
Ken Rauhl
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Join Date: March 15, 2003
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Originally posted by Sneeki Two:
To Ken:
The demon lords themselves could take out 100's of their own kind in one strike using the artifacts they carried. Gords power was even greater than theirs. Though there were a few times he got into some trouble.

Also the demons had great power but when fighting each other, they didnt really use their innate magical abilities due to the magic resistances all demons have. Now when they fought regular mortals they could blast away with magic.

The magic used was with great artifacts of power. ALL of the Demonlords had artifacts that were unresistable (no saving throws). Gratz's item was the "Eye of Deception". That one artifact was so powerful, it was the main reason he was the toughest demon in the Abyss. He actually altered space and time with that thing once, and that was just one of its many abilities.

Let me be clear. This is not like playing Ad&D (btw it was 1rst editon back then). At this point Gord was not a Player Character. Like if your character where to make demi-god status he would immediately become an NPC (as per 2nd edition rules I believe).

A spoiler for you since you think its BS anyways
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"Vengeance!" Gratz shrieked, and from the Eye of Deception burst a force that contained all of the pent-up rage of the Abyss.
Gord was taken unawares, and the blast of enery struck him from behind. It sundered the aura of azure and slammed into the young man's body in an instant. Gord fell as if struck by a titanic maul.
"Now all is mine!" Grazt shouted in triumph, plying the forces from the artifact he held upon the cowering yeth before him.
Tharizdun arose as if the ravening energy refreshed him. "No stupid demon," the archfiend countered. Now you and all are mine!" With a flick of his fingers Tharizdun turned the Eye of Deception back, and Grazt was felled by his own device.
Then the final slaughter of demonkind began.
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As you can see, to fight Tharizdun he needed the power he was given. You also see that Gord was also hurt by Grazzt(he was not invunarable like you were led to believe). You just have to view the scope of the book. You are trying to put an average character in an Abyss wide war.
oh well, i dont think either you or your author understand the definition of a Demon, one of those is, alone, worthy of being the final villian by himself. they are not goblins placed out there for simple slaughter. they dont show up in hundreds only to be instantly destroyed, reduced to ashes by two mere mortals.

what is a demon, is that not the counter part of some being Holy? they either fell from Grace to become what they are now, or were created as a perverted mirror image of something good? their power mimic that of their goodly counterpart, and should not be easily dismissed by anything wielded by a mortal, or immotal. and yet we see, this Gord guy swept them away like an autumn wind sweeping fallen leaves. hardly any sweat, until he met the last and strongest demon.

no sir, the strongest demon, does not scream 'vegence' like a loser. He sat in His Dark Throne made of countless spirits' suffering and torment, pulled together by His sinister will. His pawns worked unsean and in all forms through out the space and time where men kind were known to exist, His Minister Death, His Domain all that was lightless. His dream was fire, and His gaze lingered on the blueprints designed to one end, the annihilating of the Creation.

His minions as foretold were called (and should be called) the Spawns of Hellmouth, the Burning Legion, as called among themselves the Administrators of the Condamned, as known in the past Harbingers of the Storm. He Himself was known (and should be) to people of various worlds as the Prince of Fire, Nightingale of Doom, Lord of the Seven (Demon Dukes), to maybe people of our/Gord's world the First Who Walked the Earth, and finally to beings of Holy the Damned King of the Hated Legion.

His thoughts alone could shake the foundation stones that supported the worlds. He was enraptured, as do all his kind, on misery and torror and became stronger still with each added soul condamned to his name. His Lust for Destruction and Hatred of Life manifest a great stormy fury from the deepest pit of the Abyss, threatening to swept away world after world. His armors are the many powers of the world, each dedicated knowingly or unknowingly to his cause. Some were simply cowered before his majesty. Others were enslaved by his will. One way or another, they served to grow his power till the end of days. These powers, layer after layer, protected him and advanced his cause, to directly assult Himself there will be hell to pay. The worlds will suffer the consequences.

So, even IF Gord was imbued with the powers of Gods, through out the world, the evil that had been dwelling for ageless would simply win without the powers of Good Gods counterbalacing them. Many ancient civilizations would perish in this struggle, billions of lives gone and their souls would serve some other hedious evil in death, many worlds would be utterly destroyed or enslaved by one evil or another.

To sum it up, a fight with a so-feared Gord was as important as a grip of grain is among a field of wheat, easily dismissed by Him like blowing out a candle in the storm.

plus Demonslaying is the same ubering as Godslaying. I am not talking about AN AVERAGE Gord, I am talking about whatever friggin level. let me repeat, demons are not just a lvl 25 monster with a nifty +127 sword for you to kill. you dont just kick hundreds of demons around like they are your bitch.

[ 04-10-2003, 04:13 AM: Message edited by: Ken Rauhl ]
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