Ironworks Gaming Forum - View Single Post - Questions during Chapter 2 *possible spoliers*

motub · 06-02-2004, 07:09 AM

#1: The empty bottles can be used to make potions with a machine you can find later. I can accept that there might be a cleric limitation, as I'm not at chap 3 yet (and I am a cleric anyway).

#2: You should be able to make some stuff at Eltoona's even if you're a Rogue, as long as you have some points in "Use Magic Device" (I'm also a Rogue, but I haven't tried to make anything there yet). A few points in Use Magic Device has certainly let me cast Wizard/Sorceror spell scrolls, and use rods and staffs that I've found (or killed for

) along the way, so I assume that I will be able to make stuff at Eltoona's when I get around to it.

#3: The Fairy Dust, Dragon's Blood, Gargoyle Skulls, and Special Holy Water will be useful in the same way in Chapter 3 as they were in Chapter 1 (but the usage will cost more in Chapter 3 and will produce better results). If you missed the use for these items in Chapter 1, I'm not going to spoil either, but maybe it will be even easier to discover this in Chapter 3.

#4: I've gotta say, the Grimgnaw thing sounds very much like you completed the quest (at least that's when you get all quest-related conversation options removed from the dialogs). I assume that something has gone wrong if you still have the hand.

The only thing I can think of (other than a bug, obviously), is that you did something for an alternate quest that disabled giving the Hand to Grimgnaw. Let me explain.... I thought I would be clever and try to get money from Gilles in chapter 1, then kill him, take the stuff back and give it to Oleff (I'm lawful neutral and I didn't want a barrowfull of points in either good or evil, or at least I wanted them in both, as I really want to avoid winding up lawful good [img]tongue.gif[/img] ).

This worked, insofar as I was able to kill Gilles before he disappeared and get the Tomb items back... but Oleff would not accept them. My journal had been updated with each sale to Gilles, and the item removed from Oleff's list of available items to receive (he "hears that the item has fallen into the hands of evil").

So did you do something like that? I haven't gotten to any area where the Mummy Hand might be (I know generally where it's likely to be) so I haven't seen any alternate requests for it as yet. Or is the quest really completed (it would still appear in the Journal, but under the Completed Quests tab, and you would have the upgraded Amulet of the Long Death-- +2, I guess)? There are a couple of quests that I've seen so far where you get stuck with a useless item despite having completed the quest in question (Torin's Ring, Meldanen's Tooth)-- maybe this is such a situation (though I'd really think that he'd take the Hand).

[ 06-02-2004, 07:12 AM: Message edited by: motub ]

06-02-2004, 07:09 AM	#7
motub The Magister Join Date: March 14, 2003 Location: Netherlands Age: 62 Posts: 107	#1: The empty bottles can be used to make potions with a machine you can find later. I can accept that there might be a cleric limitation, as I'm not at chap 3 yet (and I am a cleric anyway). #2: You should be able to make some stuff at Eltoona's even if you're a Rogue, as long as you have some points in "Use Magic Device" (I'm also a Rogue, but I haven't tried to make anything there yet). A few points in Use Magic Device has certainly let me cast Wizard/Sorceror spell scrolls, and use rods and staffs that I've found (or killed for ) along the way, so I assume that I will be able to make stuff at Eltoona's when I get around to it. #3: The Fairy Dust, Dragon's Blood, Gargoyle Skulls, and Special Holy Water will be useful in the same way in Chapter 3 as they were in Chapter 1 (but the usage will cost more in Chapter 3 and will produce better results). If you missed the use for these items in Chapter 1, I'm not going to spoil either, but maybe it will be even easier to discover this in Chapter 3. #4: I've gotta say, the Grimgnaw thing sounds very much like you completed the quest (at least that's when you get all quest-related conversation options removed from the dialogs). I assume that something has gone wrong if you still have the hand. The only thing I can think of (other than a bug, obviously), is that you did something for an alternate quest that disabled giving the Hand to Grimgnaw. Let me explain.... I thought I would be clever and try to get money from Gilles in chapter 1, then kill him, take the stuff back and give it to Oleff (I'm lawful neutral and I didn't want a barrowfull of points in either good or evil, or at least I wanted them in both, as I really want to avoid winding up lawful good [img]tongue.gif[/img] ). This worked, insofar as I was able to kill Gilles before he disappeared and get the Tomb items back... but Oleff would not accept them. My journal had been updated with each sale to Gilles, and the item removed from Oleff's list of available items to receive (he "hears that the item has fallen into the hands of evil"). So did you do something like that? I haven't gotten to any area where the Mummy Hand might be (I know generally where it's likely to be) so I haven't seen any alternate requests for it as yet. Or is the quest really completed (it would still appear in the Journal, but under the Completed Quests tab, and you would have the upgraded Amulet of the Long Death-- +2, I guess)? There are a couple of quests that I've seen so far where you get stuck with a useless item despite having completed the quest in question (Torin's Ring, Meldanen's Tooth)-- maybe this is such a situation (though I'd really think that he'd take the Hand). [ 06-02-2004, 07:12 AM: Message edited by: motub ]