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DraconisRex · 08-02-2002, 10:23 AM

Yes, but you're still in a "my dad can beat up your sister" argument. Your character may be maxed and you may be the king of power gamers in a solo-adventure that has drawn some criticism, but that doesn't change anything that I wrote.

And while I'm happy for your lucky find of a pair of boots of speed that I haven't found in C2. Despite bringing 6 test characters through (all legit) and generating a score of Debug characters to test various classes & combinations in the low-intermediate stage of NWN. This unbalanced palcement of an item in this monty-haul campaign doesn't serve as proof.

AC's of epic level personalities in Faerun (Epic Level Handbook):

Elminster - 31
Storm Silverhand - 35
The Simbul - 31
Szazz Tam - 31
Iyraclea - 33
Shuruppak - 36

ACs of epic level personalities in Greyhawk (ELH):

Eclavdra - 32
Lord Robilar - 38

ACs of epic level NPCs (ELH - Level 30 characters):

Barbarian - 33
Bard - 36
Cleric - 35
Druid - 32
Fighter - 41
Monk - 40
Paladin - 41
Ranger - 34 (Of note, as you're 37 w/o a shield)
Rogue - 36
Sorcerer - 33
Wizard - 32

But you're still not seeing the point of the point of the exercise. We're comparing the rules, not a somewhat messed-up Monty-Haul campaign being taken advantage of by someone who has figured out the loopholes. At level 10, in this campaign, you should have acquired enough "gear value" of equipment to be at least level 18. And depending on your luck, level 21 or level 22.

Now, let's look at your character:

Mostly ranger. Some thief so you can "use any item." One level of sorcerer. A big key that one level of sorcerer. It says powergamer. And then in Port Llast you made a whole list of +3 items from those five tomes that were otherwise inaccessable and got this epic-level AC.

And now, by being a powergamer (instead of a role-player), you're arguing with a role-player about the combat system you have intentionally circumvented because the campaign doesn't have DM supervision to keep balanced.

It's okay. It doesn't bother me. You paid the $60, just like me. But your criticisms of my arguement are based on your powergaming, flawed programming and campaign design, not the tradeoffs between DEFENSE and OFFENSE.

[ 08-02-2002, 10:26 AM: Message edited by: DraconisRex ]

08-02-2002, 10:23 AM	#7
DraconisRex Avatar Join Date: January 4, 2002 Location: On my rear-end. Posts: 563	Yes, but you're still in a "my dad can beat up your sister" argument. Your character may be maxed and you may be the king of power gamers in a solo-adventure that has drawn some criticism, but that doesn't change anything that I wrote. And while I'm happy for your lucky find of a pair of boots of speed that I haven't found in C2. Despite bringing 6 test characters through (all legit) and generating a score of Debug characters to test various classes & combinations in the low-intermediate stage of NWN. This unbalanced palcement of an item in this monty-haul campaign doesn't serve as proof. AC's of epic level personalities in Faerun (Epic Level Handbook): Elminster - 31 Storm Silverhand - 35 The Simbul - 31 Szazz Tam - 31 Iyraclea - 33 Shuruppak - 36 ACs of epic level personalities in Greyhawk (ELH): Eclavdra - 32 Lord Robilar - 38 ACs of epic level NPCs (ELH - Level 30 characters): Barbarian - 33 Bard - 36 Cleric - 35 Druid - 32 Fighter - 41 Monk - 40 Paladin - 41 Ranger - 34 (Of note, as you're 37 w/o a shield) Rogue - 36 Sorcerer - 33 Wizard - 32 But you're still not seeing the point of the point of the exercise. We're comparing the rules, not a somewhat messed-up Monty-Haul campaign being taken advantage of by someone who has figured out the loopholes. At level 10, in this campaign, you should have acquired enough "gear value" of equipment to be at least level 18. And depending on your luck, level 21 or level 22. Now, let's look at your character: Mostly ranger. Some thief so you can "use any item." One level of sorcerer. A big key that one level of sorcerer. It says powergamer. And then in Port Llast you made a whole list of +3 items from those five tomes that were otherwise inaccessable and got this epic-level AC. And now, by being a powergamer (instead of a role-player), you're arguing with a role-player about the combat system you have intentionally circumvented because the campaign doesn't have DM supervision to keep balanced. It's okay. It doesn't bother me. You paid the $60, just like me. But your criticisms of my arguement are based on your powergaming, flawed programming and campaign design, not the tradeoffs between DEFENSE and OFFENSE. [ 08-02-2002, 10:26 AM: Message edited by: DraconisRex ] __________________ Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?<br /><br />Vah! Denuone Latine loquebar? Me ineptum. Interdum modo elabitur.<br /><br />Di! Ecce hora! Uxor mea me necabit!