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12-05-2000, 10:01 AM

I'm one of the "old timers", having first played Wizardry I way back in the mid-80's. (Remember when it was little more than a green wireframe "dungeon" and text?

Since then I've gotten on with my life, but then I drifted back to RPG's, stopping by Ultima and a couple others. I finally landed back on the Wizardry series (Bane of the Cosmic Forge the follow up... I forget the title at the moment... I'm old, remember?)

The thing I most enjoy about this series is the "first person" perspective. I'm not occupying some God-like view of the character way down there below me. When monsters and NPC's approach, they are walking up to ME, looking ME in the eye... and occasionally kicking my teeth down my throat. I like that. (Well, except for the teeth kicking part.)It just seems to add something to the experience for me. Makes it personal, rather than business.

In "Bane..." and it's follow up (and no, I still can't recall the name of it, dagnabit) the graphics were a series of "jumps" from still image to still image. That was acceptable. With W&W, I've now found smooth (mostly) flowing virtual motion through this odd world. I really REALLY like that.

My question therefore is this:

Does anyone know of any other RPG's out there that allow the player to experience the game AS the character, rather than looking down on the character from above? When I'm playing a military game, I prefer to "step back" from the action... I'm a strategist by nature, not a tank jockey... but when I go adventuring, I want my wrinkled, old butt directly on the line.

One other caveat.... I would much prefer it if these other games also functioned using "turn based combat", like W&W uses. After all, I'm old, and at my age, I'm likely to grab my bottle of Geritol and fling that at some rampaging troll rather than the poison bomb I distinctly remember having placed in that hip bag just this morning, consarnit. I can be a real "bad-ass" in a fair fight, so long as the game gives me the chance to shift by walker aside so I can pull my sword out, and only a turn based combat game allows me to do that. Otherwise, I wind up as a greasy spot on the astro-turf.

Thanks in advance for your recommendations.... ya young whipper-snappers... (what the heck IS a whipper-snapper, anyway?)

12-05-2000, 10:01 AM	#1
MarArch Guest Posts: n/a	I'm one of the "old timers", having first played Wizardry I way back in the mid-80's. (Remember when it was little more than a green wireframe "dungeon" and text? Since then I've gotten on with my life, but then I drifted back to RPG's, stopping by Ultima and a couple others. I finally landed back on the Wizardry series (Bane of the Cosmic Forge the follow up... I forget the title at the moment... I'm old, remember?) The thing I most enjoy about this series is the "first person" perspective. I'm not occupying some God-like view of the character way down there below me. When monsters and NPC's approach, they are walking up to ME, looking ME in the eye... and occasionally kicking my teeth down my throat. I like that. (Well, except for the teeth kicking part.)It just seems to add something to the experience for me. Makes it personal, rather than business. In "Bane..." and it's follow up (and no, I still can't recall the name of it, dagnabit) the graphics were a series of "jumps" from still image to still image. That was acceptable. With W&W, I've now found smooth (mostly) flowing virtual motion through this odd world. I really REALLY like that. My question therefore is this: Does anyone know of any other RPG's out there that allow the player to experience the game AS the character, rather than looking down on the character from above? When I'm playing a military game, I prefer to "step back" from the action... I'm a strategist by nature, not a tank jockey... but when I go adventuring, I want my wrinkled, old butt directly on the line. One other caveat.... I would much prefer it if these other games also functioned using "turn based combat", like W&W uses. After all, I'm old, and at my age, I'm likely to grab my bottle of Geritol and fling that at some rampaging troll rather than the poison bomb I distinctly remember having placed in that hip bag just this morning, consarnit. I can be a real "bad-ass" in a fair fight, so long as the game gives me the chance to shift by walker aside so I can pull my sword out, and only a turn based combat game allows me to do that. Otherwise, I wind up as a greasy spot on the astro-turf. Thanks in advance for your recommendations.... ya young whipper-snappers... (what the heck IS a whipper-snapper, anyway?)