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Magness · 01-23-2003, 11:05 AM

Good work, Axl!

It's so interesting that so many people have seemed to think that the final battle was unbeatable. IIRC, it only took me 3 tries to beat them.

First time, I got sucked into the battle by surprise, so I was completely unbuffed. Still, I decided to fight the battle for the heck of it. I did OK for a while, but eventually fell while still in the first part of the battle.

Second time, I was fully prepared, but somehow ended up getting swamped by summoned monsters, I think that in my first time thru that perhaps one of the monks may have taken out the summoner. Anyways, I was having a grand old time wiping out the summons, particularly by using my own summons. However, eventually, my party succumbed to the overwhelming numbers of summons.

Third time was the charm. I completely ignored Isair and Madea and concentrated on taking out their allies. IIRC, I didn't find the summoner this time either, but I think that a monk or one of my summons must have taken him out since there weren't very many enemy summoned monsters. Regardless, after wiping out their allies, I concentrated on the Isair. After taking the required amount of a$$-whupping, the twins retreated. etc., etc., etc. You know the rest.

This CAN be a very tough battle. This battle is all about finding a good combination of tactics. There's no one "right" way to win. But I do think that there are a small number of "right" ways and certainly a number of really good tactics.

1. Tactical retreat:
At the very start of the battle, move your mage and cleric as far away from the twins as possible towards the bottom of the screen. Why? TO avoid betting hit by the Blasphemy spell. While the rest of you party is paralyzed, your mage and cleric can be summoning monster allies or casting whatever other magics you feel are necessary. This tactic is EXCELLENT!

2. Protection from Magic scrolls
This is a bit of a cheesey tactic, but effective. Don't use it immediately, however. Take out the twins allies first. Then have your tanks keep the twins occupied. Then send in character with a Prot from Magic scroll and cast it on one of the twins. Protection from Magic == no magical protections == seriously vulnerable enemy!!! [img]smile.gif[/img]

3. Ignore the twins initially:
This is just plain smart. The twins are incredibly well buffed and almost impossible to damage. Taking out their allies is more effective and can be done fairly quickly.

01-23-2003, 11:05 AM	#7
Magness Quintesson Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Manchester, NH, USA Posts: 1,025	Good work, Axl! It's so interesting that so many people have seemed to think that the final battle was unbeatable. IIRC, it only took me 3 tries to beat them. First time, I got sucked into the battle by surprise, so I was completely unbuffed. Still, I decided to fight the battle for the heck of it. I did OK for a while, but eventually fell while still in the first part of the battle. Second time, I was fully prepared, but somehow ended up getting swamped by summoned monsters, I think that in my first time thru that perhaps one of the monks may have taken out the summoner. Anyways, I was having a grand old time wiping out the summons, particularly by using my own summons. However, eventually, my party succumbed to the overwhelming numbers of summons. Third time was the charm. I completely ignored Isair and Madea and concentrated on taking out their allies. IIRC, I didn't find the summoner this time either, but I think that a monk or one of my summons must have taken him out since there weren't very many enemy summoned monsters. Regardless, after wiping out their allies, I concentrated on the Isair. After taking the required amount of a$$-whupping, the twins retreated. etc., etc., etc. You know the rest. This CAN be a very tough battle. This battle is all about finding a good combination of tactics. There's no one "right" way to win. But I do think that there are a small number of "right" ways and certainly a number of really good tactics. 1. Tactical retreat: At the very start of the battle, move your mage and cleric as far away from the twins as possible towards the bottom of the screen. Why? TO avoid betting hit by the Blasphemy spell. While the rest of you party is paralyzed, your mage and cleric can be summoning monster allies or casting whatever other magics you feel are necessary. This tactic is EXCELLENT! 2. Protection from Magic scrolls This is a bit of a cheesey tactic, but effective. Don't use it immediately, however. Take out the twins allies first. Then have your tanks keep the twins occupied. Then send in character with a Prot from Magic scroll and cast it on one of the twins. Protection from Magic == no magical protections == seriously vulnerable enemy!!! [img]smile.gif[/img] 3. Ignore the twins initially: This is just plain smart. The twins are incredibly well buffed and almost impossible to damage. Taking out their allies is more effective and can be done fairly quickly.