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Old 11-26-2002, 03:36 PM   #35
Luvian
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Originally posted by Callum Kerr:
Heheh... you sound pissed off at me for repeating everything
And I need to broaden my experience... who is Elminster... and i have never played final fantasy... that is my problem... i overestimate things

And what exactly does hit dice mean, I know its a measure of health etc... but i really don't get what it IS. So i don't get about errtu still. Does that mean that he is level 13? in which case drizzts level is right... or is Errtu higher than that? In which case drizzt's level is IMHO wrong

BUT... why was it so hard to kill isair and madae with a party of level 30

P.S. actually, no - I don't under estimate things - My consciousness creates the world around me so i am rite in my world - and u r all right in ur own consciousness's world
Forgive me 30 seconds while I go cry in the corner...
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AH! Much better now.

Hit dice are levels for monsters. Since most monsters have very different abilities, making common class for them would be hard, so instead, they have "hit dices". Ertu has 13 hit dices. That mean that they used 13d8 for his health. And he has a Base to hit, saving throws and all other classrestricted abilities, like spellcasting and such, equal to a level 13.

Well.... Who is Elminster... It's hard to explain him if you have never seen him. If you keep reading forgotten Realm Novels, you'sll learn more about him later. But the best I could describe him as, is like Gandalf, Power wise, if you have read the 3 lord of the rings novels.

Or do you read dragonlance? He is higher as powerfull as Raistlin in the latter novels. Personally, I would say he is more powerfull than Raistlin, but that's a huge debate, and I don't want to start it in this thread as well...

If you don't know either of them, Just figure out an old mage that is at least 500 years old, can kill dragons in like 10 seconds, has been to hell, caused TONS of trouble, and has been back. If something exist, and it is either evil, or neutral, he has killed that kind before... He is the right hand man of Mystra, godess of magic, and was her lover, before she died and got replaced.

Isair and Madae have been made extra powerfull so that we could have a challenge. They have tons of immunities, powers,... It would have been boring if the end bosses had simply been a level 16 mage and priest.

It's true that you are right in your world, and that we all are right in our world, too. But sometimes it important to have a link between those worlds, and that's usually the official rules. They are the middle ground between all our worlds.

Personally, I think that Demons, Dragons and such are too easy in the official rules, and I have beefed them up in my Pen and Paper games.
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