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RedballUK · 11-15-2002, 04:50 AM

OK. I'm planning on taking a human Rogue now and not a Tiefling thinking that it gives me more flexibility over multiclassing later (as well as the extra skill points etc..).

Sorry if I'm not getting the painfully obvious, but am I right insaying that, even as a human, the 2nd and 3rd multi classes have to stay within 1 of eachother? Its only the primary (or highest levelled) class that is ignored?

So assuming my Rogues priorities requirements...
1) Sneaking/Scouting
2) Super Sniper (Bow specialisation, Rapid shot, Envenom weapon, etc..)
3) Locks, Pick pockets, traps, etc
4) Backstabbing melee (using 2-w-combo, arterial strike, etc..)
5) Looking good and feeling good!

...is it better to ....

a) 2lvls Rogue +1lvl Ranger + rest Rogue
b) 2lvls Rogue +4lvls Fighter + rest Rogue
c) 2lvls Rogue +3lvls Ranger + 4lvls Fighter + rest Rogue
d) Anne Other

Apart from the 2-weap-combo feats and closer match of skills, is there any other benefit to taking Ranger levels (i.e. Should I just take 1 or more lvls as Ranger?).

Am I right in saying that Rangers and Rogues (and generally everyone else bar Fighters), starting at 3rd level, get 1 feat every three levels. Fighters on the other hand get a bonus feat every 2 levels. So....

(the levels below represent combined levels)

2 lvls as Rogue = 2 @ 1st (+1 for being Human)
1 lvl of Fighter = 2 @ 3rd (1 for 3rd + 1 for 1st level in Fighter)
3 lvls of Fighter = 1 @ 5th (bonus Fighter) + 1 @ 6th
Total of 6 feats after 6 lvls.

2 lvls as Rogue = 2 @ 1st (+1 for being Human)
1 lvl of Ranger = 1 @ 3rd + Ambidexterity + 2-Weap-Fighting
3 lvls of Rogue = 1 @ 6th
Total of 4 feats after 6lvls (or 6 including the Ambidexterity + 2-Weap-Fighting).

Not much in it. If the 2-w-combo is important, I guess the single Ranger route is best. It also affords better use of skill points. However, I think if the super-sniper is a must, the 4 lvls in Fighter give the chance to pick up weapon specialisation in Bow.

I guess it boils down to being greedy, I want both 2-w-combo AND super-sniper! I think I'm beginning to sway toward the Ranger lvls as it dilutes the Rogue less. I can still make him a pretty good sniper. I can also add further Ranger and/or fighter levels later on once the Sneaker skills are honed.

11-15-2002, 04:50 AM	#8
RedballUK Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: November 12, 2002 Location: London Age: 52 Posts: 19	OK. I'm planning on taking a human Rogue now and not a Tiefling thinking that it gives me more flexibility over multiclassing later (as well as the extra skill points etc..). Sorry if I'm not getting the painfully obvious, but am I right insaying that, even as a human, the 2nd and 3rd multi classes have to stay within 1 of eachother? Its only the primary (or highest levelled) class that is ignored? So assuming my Rogues priorities requirements... 1) Sneaking/Scouting 2) Super Sniper (Bow specialisation, Rapid shot, Envenom weapon, etc..) 3) Locks, Pick pockets, traps, etc 4) Backstabbing melee (using 2-w-combo, arterial strike, etc..) 5) Looking good and feeling good! ...is it better to .... a) 2lvls Rogue +1lvl Ranger + rest Rogue b) 2lvls Rogue +4lvls Fighter + rest Rogue c) 2lvls Rogue +3lvls Ranger + 4lvls Fighter + rest Rogue d) Anne Other Apart from the 2-weap-combo feats and closer match of skills, is there any other benefit to taking Ranger levels (i.e. Should I just take 1 or more lvls as Ranger?). Am I right in saying that Rangers and Rogues (and generally everyone else bar Fighters), starting at 3rd level, get 1 feat every three levels. Fighters on the other hand get a bonus feat every 2 levels. So.... (the levels below represent combined levels) 2 lvls as Rogue = 2 @ 1st (+1 for being Human) 1 lvl of Fighter = 2 @ 3rd (1 for 3rd + 1 for 1st level in Fighter) 3 lvls of Fighter = 1 @ 5th (bonus Fighter) + 1 @ 6th Total of 6 feats after 6 lvls. 2 lvls as Rogue = 2 @ 1st (+1 for being Human) 1 lvl of Ranger = 1 @ 3rd + Ambidexterity + 2-Weap-Fighting 3 lvls of Rogue = 1 @ 6th Total of 4 feats after 6lvls (or 6 including the Ambidexterity + 2-Weap-Fighting). Not much in it. If the 2-w-combo is important, I guess the single Ranger route is best. It also affords better use of skill points. However, I think if the super-sniper is a must, the 4 lvls in Fighter give the chance to pick up weapon specialisation in Bow. I guess it boils down to being greedy, I want both 2-w-combo AND super-sniper! I think I'm beginning to sway toward the Ranger lvls as it dilutes the Rogue less. I can still make him a pretty good sniper. I can also add further Ranger and/or fighter levels later on once the Sneaker skills are honed.