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NobleNick · 10-12-2005, 12:59 PM

Wolf On Fire,

Congratulations on getting HoW installed!

If you do a DC Cleric/Ranger you can have Raise Dead and the Druidic spells, just not as high a level spells as a Druid would have.

The Druid spells, especially with HoW, are quite fun and useful; but I would in NO wise sacrifice the more mundane yet more useful and powerful Cleric spells to have them: Take the Cleric.

Throwing axes are available in Kuldahar, but are expensive. I let my Axe-warrior carry a Bow (with ZERO proficiency points) while I stacked PP in Axe and Mace. She did O.K. with the Bow. In mid-game you get an enchanted returning thrown axe to replace the Bow, and it is easy street from there forward.

If you let the Axe fighter go to 5 PP in Axe, she will be an awesome ranged warrior with the thrown Axe: Better than Bow! Meanwhile, stack the remaining points in a crushing weapon (Mace is an excellent choice) to hedge your Fighter against piercing and slashing immune foes.

Don't know about the 13 INT and spells; but you also want to remember that low INT may affect your Bard's lore ability (I don't know if it does). What I **do** know is that there is no reason not to give your Bard an INT=DEX=CON=CHA=18, and STR = 15 or better. Keep rolling until you get the 90+ points to do it: It's not that hard with the naturally high rolls the Bard gets.

You are right --> It is not good to DC a F(3) to Thief: You should go to at least F(6)! You do not really need a Thief in the early game; and a DC F(6)/T can get 3 PP stacked in Shortsword and in Bow, versus the straight Thief's 1 PP each. AND the F/T gets to use any weapon, including any bow (not just the shortbow). An MC F/T is an even better option, if you are doing HoW and had planned to DC any time sooner than F(9). An MC M/T will work, too. Just about **ANYTHING** is much better than a straight class "XP hog" Thief.

I'd give the Bow to the Pally and sell the Crossbow, since the Bow is more effective and the Bard should not be using any weapons from mid-game on. (My Bard has proficiency in Crossbow; but carries the "Lyre of Progression" in the shield slot, so she cannot use the crossbow without losing the extra spell slots that the Lyre provides. I sold the fine crossbow she found, and use her ammo slots to carry arrows and bullets for the rest of the group. In a warrior-heavy party, she more than pulls her weight by just singing and throwing the occasional spell.)

--------------------
What's a party,
without a song?
Bards ROCK!
Party On!!

[ 10-12-2005, 01:12 PM: Message edited by: NobleNick ]

10-12-2005, 12:59 PM	#2
NobleNick Quintesson Join Date: February 5, 2002 Location: Huntsville, AL, USA Age: 65 Posts: 1,045	Wolf On Fire, Congratulations on getting HoW installed! If you do a DC Cleric/Ranger you can have Raise Dead and the Druidic spells, just not as high a level spells as a Druid would have. The Druid spells, especially with HoW, are quite fun and useful; but I would in NO wise sacrifice the more mundane yet more useful and powerful Cleric spells to have them: Take the Cleric. Throwing axes are available in Kuldahar, but are expensive. I let my Axe-warrior carry a Bow (with ZERO proficiency points) while I stacked PP in Axe and Mace. She did O.K. with the Bow. In mid-game you get an enchanted returning thrown axe to replace the Bow, and it is easy street from there forward. If you let the Axe fighter go to 5 PP in Axe, she will be an awesome ranged warrior with the thrown Axe: Better than Bow! Meanwhile, stack the remaining points in a crushing weapon (Mace is an excellent choice) to hedge your Fighter against piercing and slashing immune foes. Don't know about the 13 INT and spells; but you also want to remember that low INT may affect your Bard's lore ability (I don't know if it does). What I do know is that there is no reason not to give your Bard an INT=DEX=CON=CHA=18, and STR = 15 or better. Keep rolling until you get the 90+ points to do it: It's not that hard with the naturally high rolls the Bard gets. You are right --> It is not good to DC a F(3) to Thief: You should go to at least F(6)! You do not really need a Thief in the early game; and a DC F(6)/T can get 3 PP stacked in Shortsword and in Bow, versus the straight Thief's 1 PP each. AND the F/T gets to use any weapon, including any bow (not just the shortbow). An MC F/T is an even better option, if you are doing HoW and had planned to DC any time sooner than F(9). An MC M/T will work, too. Just about ANYTHING is much better than a straight class "XP hog" Thief. I'd give the Bow to the Pally and sell the Crossbow, since the Bow is more effective and the Bard should not be using any weapons from mid-game on. (My Bard has proficiency in Crossbow; but carries the "Lyre of Progression" in the shield slot, so she cannot use the crossbow without losing the extra spell slots that the Lyre provides. I sold the fine crossbow she found, and use her ammo slots to carry arrows and bullets for the rest of the group. In a warrior-heavy party, she more than pulls her weight by just singing and throwing the occasional spell.) -------------------- What's a party, without a song? Bards ROCK! Party On!! [ 10-12-2005, 01:12 PM: Message edited by: NobleNick ]