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NobleNick · 01-31-2005, 03:32 PM

I figured IWD automatically adjusted the monster types based on what your current experience level was (like they did in the Baldur's Gate games)... I guess not! [img]smile.gif[/img]

Relic, Heh, heh, heh. Yes, your latest answer is correct.

If I drop my rogue now and restart, what is the best way to level him up quickly? Sleep in the Barrows for the extra-spawn monsters?

Ack! Whatever I did, I would not let the party sleep anywhere that they might be awakened by a Wailing Virgin. Also, strip the Thief before discarding him and give the equipment to your new character.

If your roleplay ethos allows, roll the appropriate character and then use Dalekeeper to hack in the same amount of expo that your Thief had. I don't consider this cheating. (However, if you don't mind a wee little bit of cheating...)

Another option is to roll your new character, have him be leader of a new party, then fill out the party by importing some or all of your experienced party into the new game, and just play on from there. Yeah, this is "cheating;" but what a lot of FUN!! Mowing through old nemeses like they were rag dolls was just too tempting for me. I did it several times with various parties. I consider it "camping" on the run.

O.K., If you don't want to do any of that, I'd suggest camping ABOVE ground on B.I; or return to IWD and complete some quests (see below).

Also, would you recommend going human rogue, then dualing over to fighter once his traps/unlock/stealth skills are around 100, or should I go for a half-elf fighter/theif multiclass? ...What I would like is a rogue that can take care of any traps/locks the party finds, as well as one that can be an effective archer and decent melee'r (I'm using the 3E sneak attack option so stealth is really only important for scouting).

I am fighting the urge to offer DC suggestions for other members of your party; but the Thief is one class that I would acquiesce might be better for you to MC. I have a DC F[9]/Thief[27] (or something ridiculous like that) and have often wished I'd gone to DC F[13]/T[xx] to get the extra offensive punch into the character. The problem is that it is a royal pain to not have a Thief for that long. If you DC, do Fighter first, and go to at least F[9], to get the extra HP and stackable PP. Well, O.K., you could do Thief first if you don't mind the extreme loss of HP.

...would improved invisibility keep the virgins...from being about to target a character to cast their spell? Also, this doesn't help me since I have no paladin, but would a paladin's anti-fear aura protect against emotion: hopelessness? (Do 2E paladins have an anti-fear aura, or am I mixing this game up with IWD2?)

No. I think the WV's attack is an area effect. On the Pally: I think you are thinking of IWD2. There is no anti-fear aura for a Pally in IWD, although he is personally more immune to such and has at least one skill/spell that might help others.

From reading other posts about the barrow dens, it seems that the monsters there just constantly respawn. Maybe I should abandon my usual "clear the halls" style of playing and just work my way through killing as few as I can.

I don't think they CONSTANTLY respawn; just if you sleep or leave the area. It is tough to not kill almost all of them in the course of achieving your objectives the first time through. Kill them all, for the expo. (I did!)

~

(Answer to the next question has a slight spoiler.)

~

I'm not opposed to going back to the IWD storyline for a little (though I am in lower dorn's deep already), and I might consider checking out the ToL content (but I'm afriad it might be too tough at my level also). [QB]

How far are you in LDD? There is LOTS of expo to be had here. Have you returned to any previous areas with unfinished quests since arriving at LDD? There are some quests that started in a previous area (with a total of about 400,000 XP!!!) that can only be finished with items you pick up by the time you (almost) finish LDD. Your MC F/T would make F[7]/T[8] just off of the quest expo and a fight or two (assuming you shared quest expo equally in a full party).

TotLM (a.k.a. ToL, TotL) is -WAY- above your party, now, but if you follow my suggested progression (previous post), you should do O.K. when you finally get to it.

Hope this helps.

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What's a party,
without a song?
Bards ROCK!
Party On!!

[ 01-31-2005, 04:15 PM: Message edited by: NobleNick ]

01-31-2005, 03:32 PM	#7
NobleNick Quintesson Join Date: February 5, 2002 Location: Huntsville, AL, USA Age: 65 Posts: 1,045	I figured IWD automatically adjusted the monster types based on what your current experience level was (like they did in the Baldur's Gate games)... I guess not! [img]smile.gif[/img] Relic, Heh, heh, heh. Yes, your latest answer is correct. If I drop my rogue now and restart, what is the best way to level him up quickly? Sleep in the Barrows for the extra-spawn monsters? Ack! Whatever I did, I would not let the party sleep anywhere that they might be awakened by a Wailing Virgin. Also, strip the Thief before discarding him and give the equipment to your new character. If your roleplay ethos allows, roll the appropriate character and then use Dalekeeper to hack in the same amount of expo that your Thief had. I don't consider this cheating. (However, if you don't mind a wee little bit of cheating...) Another option is to roll your new character, have him be leader of a new party, then fill out the party by importing some or all of your experienced party into the new game, and just play on from there. Yeah, this is "cheating;" but what a lot of FUN!! Mowing through old nemeses like they were rag dolls was just too tempting for me. I did it several times with various parties. I consider it "camping" on the run. O.K., If you don't want to do any of that, I'd suggest camping ABOVE ground on B.I; or return to IWD and complete some quests (see below). Also, would you recommend going human rogue, then dualing over to fighter once his traps/unlock/stealth skills are around 100, or should I go for a half-elf fighter/theif multiclass? ...What I would like is a rogue that can take care of any traps/locks the party finds, as well as one that can be an effective archer and decent melee'r (I'm using the 3E sneak attack option so stealth is really only important for scouting). I am fighting the urge to offer DC suggestions for other members of your party; but the Thief is one class that I would acquiesce might be better for you to MC. I have a DC F[9]/Thief[27] (or something ridiculous like that) and have often wished I'd gone to DC F[13]/T[xx] to get the extra offensive punch into the character. The problem is that it is a royal pain to not have a Thief for that long. If you DC, do Fighter first, and go to at least F[9], to get the extra HP and stackable PP. Well, O.K., you could do Thief first if you don't mind the extreme loss of HP. ...would improved invisibility keep the virgins...from being about to target a character to cast their spell? Also, this doesn't help me since I have no paladin, but would a paladin's anti-fear aura protect against emotion: hopelessness? (Do 2E paladins have an anti-fear aura, or am I mixing this game up with IWD2?) No. I think the WV's attack is an area effect. On the Pally: I think you are thinking of IWD2. There is no anti-fear aura for a Pally in IWD, although he is personally more immune to such and has at least one skill/spell that might help others. From reading other posts about the barrow dens, it seems that the monsters there just constantly respawn. Maybe I should abandon my usual "clear the halls" style of playing and just work my way through killing as few as I can. I don't think they CONSTANTLY respawn; just if you sleep or leave the area. It is tough to not kill almost all of them in the course of achieving your objectives the first time through. Kill them all, for the expo. (I did!) ~ (Answer to the next question has a slight spoiler.) ~ I'm not opposed to going back to the IWD storyline for a little (though I am in lower dorn's deep already), and I might consider checking out the ToL content (but I'm afriad it might be too tough at my level also). [QB] How far are you in LDD? There is LOTS of expo to be had here. Have you returned to any previous areas with unfinished quests since arriving at LDD? There are some quests that started in a previous area (with a total of about 400,000 XP!!!) that can only be finished with items you pick up by the time you (almost) finish LDD. Your MC F/T would make F[7]/T[8] just off of the quest expo and a fight or two (assuming you shared quest expo equally in a full party). TotLM (a.k.a. ToL, TotL) is -WAY- above your party, now, but if you follow my suggested progression (previous post), you should do O.K. when you finally get to it. Hope this helps. -------------------- What's a party, without a song? Bards ROCK! Party On!! [ 01-31-2005, 04:15 PM: Message edited by: NobleNick ]