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NobleNick · 09-02-2003, 03:48 PM

browns1977,

At the risk of being redundant, I'd like to also say,

--> [img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img] Welcome to the IWD Forum!!! [img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img]

Just a note about Bards (bless their singin' hearts) and HoW: It is very good you are looking for HoW, for several reasons.

In addition to the added HoW adventuring areas, the HoW expansion gives you gobs of game improvements, including the game interface improvements and rebalancing of the classes and (non-HoW) IWD areas.

It is the bolded part of the above comment that brings us to the topic of Bards. All those great things you read about Bards were written about Bards in IWD/HoW. As much as I love my Bard, I have to admit that Bards in IWD (no HoW) are fairly lame. The Bard (in HoW) has many shiny and useful features, improved magic using, new songs, and the bardic horn of Valhalla being the most notable; but the backbone of a Bard's utility (THE reason for getting one) is the song "War Chant of the Sith," gained at clvl 11; and this is a HoW only feature.

Similar story for Druids: They got beefed up big-time for HoW.

Edit: I'm such a slowpoke. I see Stratos slipped in a message after I started to write, but before I posted. I'd like to say one more thing: I used to say that my Bard never fired her crossbow (+3); rather, she spent 97% of her time singing "War Chant." Now that the party is in HoW, she spends 15% of her time casting spells, 5% of her time singing some other song besides the chant, and 80% of her time singing "War Chant." She *STILL* has never used her fancy crossbow. I've started letting her pack arrows for the other characters, instead of bolts. War Chant is that good.

What's a party,
without a song?
Bards ROCK! <--- in IWD/HoW
Party On!!

[ 09-02-2003, 04:09 PM: Message edited by: NobleNick ]

09-02-2003, 03:48 PM	#6
NobleNick Quintesson Join Date: February 5, 2002 Location: Huntsville, AL, USA Age: 65 Posts: 1,045	browns1977, At the risk of being redundant, I'd like to also say, --> [img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img] Welcome to the IWD Forum!!! [img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img] Just a note about Bards (bless their singin' hearts) and HoW: It is very good you are looking for HoW, for several reasons. In addition to the added HoW adventuring areas, the HoW expansion gives you gobs of game improvements, including the game interface improvements and rebalancing of the classes and (non-HoW) IWD areas. It is the bolded part of the above comment that brings us to the topic of Bards. All those great things you read about Bards were written about Bards in IWD/HoW. As much as I love my Bard, I have to admit that Bards in IWD (no HoW) are fairly lame. The Bard (in HoW) has many shiny and useful features, improved magic using, new songs, and the bardic horn of Valhalla being the most notable; but the backbone of a Bard's utility (THE reason for getting one) is the song "War Chant of the Sith," gained at clvl 11; and this is a HoW only feature. Similar story for Druids: They got beefed up big-time for HoW. Edit: I'm such a slowpoke. I see Stratos slipped in a message after I started to write, but before I posted. I'd like to say one more thing: I used to say that my Bard never fired her crossbow (+3); rather, she spent 97% of her time singing "War Chant." Now that the party is in HoW, she spends 15% of her time casting spells, 5% of her time singing some other song besides the chant, and 80% of her time singing "War Chant." She STILL has never used her fancy crossbow. I've started letting her pack arrows for the other characters, instead of bolts. War Chant is that good. What's a party, without a song? Bards ROCK! <--- in IWD/HoW Party On!! [ 09-02-2003, 04:09 PM: Message edited by: NobleNick ]