Yeah even with MM. They can be powerful you know. Especially on high levels-like a Sorcerer. With HLA`s,Robe Of Vecna,Amulet Of Power you are just too powerful. I played Ascension with a party of Cavalier,Sorcerer and ToB NPC. We batteld him a loong time,then i used my Sorcerer`s skils. Time Stop beggins,time stopps end,certain dragon lies dead on the floor.