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Originally posted by Whailor:
Well, whaddya know, I am gone for day or two and stuff's going on..
Well, first of all, about Anomen/Aerie/Viconia - no one asks anyone to love them. So Galadria doesn't like Anomen, good, go on. I am not a fan of his either and can do without him in a party rather well as well. But I neither like whining Aerie or twisted Viconia. These 2 are on the same step of the ladder as Anomen. Everyone twisted in their own weird way, and none needed really at all. But, there's no point to try to elevate Aerie or Viconia, telling that "we understand them" and not to try to understand anyone other. These two haven't had it anyway harder then anyone else.
As for Irenicus - then I still say what I said before - he would not rape Imoen as was put here, because he simply didn't care about that or about Imoen. To Irenicus Imoen and EVERYONE else was just that, lowly life form to experiment upon, nothing. Do you really think that he would then fall so low and do all what you said he did? Nope. Bodhi as such is different and her "games" would perhaps include quite different things that of Irenicus, but ole Jon would not ever fall as low as to mess with Imoen. Imoen (and the PC player in BG2 and his friends) are tools to him, just that. They are something to experiment upon, and then throw away. He did love Ellesime once, as briefly as it was perhaps, but don't think that he would mess with any other woman after that. In a way he still 'feel's something towards Ellesime, though it's not a love anymore.
And Tanoch Thas'ala - I don't care about your 'yawns' really. You haven't yet wrote anything useful regarding this either, it's all one 'yawn' so far to me as well.
[ 02-18-2002: Message edited by: Whailor ]
Sheesh, such a long winded reply for some one who finds all this a yawn.
The reason I haven't really posted anything usefull is because I didn't feel the need to post anything other than my reply to you. I just found it funny that you feel the need to take this a bit to seriously and to even come down on us for not looking past Anemone's irritatingness.
The reason we or others like Imoen or Viconia or whoever better than anemone is that WE DO understand them better. Or we understand what might motivate them.
Do you play fmale characters? Probably not, you more than likely model the PC after yourself or an alter ego. We as females do the same. I can identiffy with Viconia better than any other cahracter in the game.
In the realy real world i have a very close circle of friends. A t one point there were two people who were very damned annoying. I stopped hanging out with one. Several other friends commented that they didn't understand why I chose one over the other..I just siad that one was annoying in a way I could handle..
I don't like Anemone. I don't want to get to know Anemone. I refuse to. Kinda like in real life. We can choose who we like or don't like.
As for Irenicus, of course he would rape Imoen. He's raping her mentally, why would he stop at physically? Some one said tha Imoen is an ends to a means, or something like that. She is nothing to him...Raping a person is about taking away that person's control. Not about passion. Not about getting some ones rocks off. And raping does not necessarily mean he had sexual intercourse with Imoen. It could mean lots of different things.
I suggest this, Whailor, go to a hospital and talk to some women who were raped. Ask them to tell you what exactly happened. Or if you can't get any of these scarred for life women (uhm men too if there are any) to open up, try looking up a sight that might help women that have been raped to cope...