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Originally posted by SixOfSpades:
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Originally posted by Cerek:
Even Gandalf would be powerless to harm the Witch King, which is saying a LOT since he was able to kill a Balrog.
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I must disagree. Gandalf had his doubts about being able/allowed to
kill the Witch-king, what with the prophecy and all, but he showed no hesitation about facing him down. His exact words were (grabbing book) "It might be so [referring to whether he was overmatched], but our trial of strength is not yet come." It's also worth noting that Gandalf the Grey took on four Nazgul at once in the fight on Weathertop, and emerged unscathed, and Gandalf the White twice fended off five winged Nazgul at once on the Pelennor.[/QUOTE]
OK, I mispoke. I should have maintained the assertion that Gandalf cannot kill the Witch King, but he probably could do him a great deal of harm.
As for Gandalf facing the other Nazgul, I think it is quite clear that the Witch King is far above the others in power. The prophecy of "cannot be killed by man" doesn't apply to the other 8 (to the best of my knowledge), only to the Witch King of Angmar. The power of ALL the Nazgul were definitely increased on the Pelonnor Fields - so it is reasonable to assume that Sauron was directly augmenting their power and that the Witch King's power was augmented even greater than that of the other 8.
As for the issue of seeing Invisible creatures or adventurers. I still feel that the ability to "see" invisible creatures applies ONLY to the RingBearer, because it is the Ring that draws their attention to the Wearer. I would agree that their sense of smell (which they did use quite often) would allow them to Detect Invisible at will, but even if they "detected" a character with Improved Invisibility - I would think the Nazgul would still be at a -2 penalty to hit since they can't actually "see" their quarry.