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Old 08-27-2004, 12:19 AM   #113
Hank Parsons
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Join Date: February 14, 2004
Location: Georgia
Age: 49
Posts: 357
^^ What he said.

SixOfSpades, I largely agree with. Even when he is "rebutting" me. (I don't find your statements to be incongruous or incompatible with my own, so it's not exactly a rebuttal, to me.)

There is a tendency in this discussion for people to make leaps in logic -- to draw extensions where they do not exist. "Oh, you think it's OK for Bodhi to have Cloud Of Bats? Then you must think it's OK for every monster to be worth half the experience points, and to use every cheese ever invented." This debate-tactic is absurd.

I am not such an extremist as that. I thought Imp Faldorn was too hard, and was not fun. I didn't install Imp Beholders, so I can't say on that - it sounds overpowered.

I happen to not think Imp Bodhi rises to that level. I think she's well done, and needs some tweaks to make better. Not perfect, but certainly not wrong or unjustified.

That doesn't mean I agree to the idea of making her succeptable to instant death from Azuredge, or d20's on-end from Sunray. IMO that is weak and wimpy, unrealistic, and underpowered for someone of her stature in the story.

In response to the talk about who should participate in the critical discussion: Should Democrats be allowed to attend and speak at the Republican convention? NO. They are fundamentally against electing a Republican. They have no say-so in how the Republicans structure their platform. Translation to Tactics -- If you want a mod that makes enemies harder, and you disagree with me or Weimer about HOW to make them harder: then post your constructive criticism here. I respect constructive ideas to improve Tactics. I respect alternative suggestions for making enemies more challenging. We are in the same "party" but with different opinions on the platform.

On the other hand, if you are a partisan who thinks that Bodhi is an average vampire with no justification for any special powers (it was said, in this thread), then you should not install Tactics and you should not harp on this mod ad nauseum. At that point it is nothing but a partisan crusade to enforce your preferences on others. The input of someone who wants normal-Bodhi is not relevant to the discussion of Tactics Imp Bodhi, as this mod is totally optional and the users are 100% self-selected. In the analogy, some people have showed up at the wrong party convention.
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