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Old 06-30-2004, 01:16 PM   #7
Cerek the Barbaric
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Join Date: October 29, 2001
Location: North Carolina
Age: 62
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Originally posted by SixOfSpades:
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Originally posted by uss:
Anyone else tried this mod?
I have, and have subsequently condemned it with extreme prejudice. All manner of abuses abound: Enemies equipped with illegal/undroppable items, enemies that always know exactly where your PC is (even if he's Invisible, inside a building, clear on the other side of the map area), enemies that start off with a form of Invisibility that cannot be dispelled either by True Sight or by a Thief's Detect Illusions ability, enemies with illegal or otherwise powergamed stats, and lots of other things to just generally get on the player's nerves (You know that area in Aran's Guildhall where you see the Trainees sparring with each other? You remember those balconies on the walls that are impossible to get to? Wouldn't that be a GREAT place to put some guys loaded up with tons of Arrows of Detonation?). Aran Linvail himself will insta-chunk any character with every hit.

To compensate, the player must lower himself to unbelievable standards--I'm talking about incredibly cheesy stuff like "Block the doorway with Invisible party members, and Cloudkill them until they die," or "Have your best Fighter use Potion-Swap in order to cast Mislead." My *cough* favorite *cough* part of the whole accursed thing is Aran Linvail's level:
  • Once you enter, you can't leave until every f'ing enemy is dead.
  • There are 5 major battles there, each of which is roughly on a par with the last set of Bandits in the "Random City Encounters" of the Tactics mod. Each of these 5 battles will require you to use all your best spells in order to survive.
  • Oh, and you can't Rest.
Do the math: This piece of garbage is impossible to beat without either cheating (such as CLUAing yourself out to Rest), abusing some abysmally cheesy game exploits, or having a ToB-level Wizard casting Wish every five minutes.

Shadow Thief Improvements is the worst mod component I have ever played. Worse than the Red Badge encounter. Worse than the Improved Small Teeth Pass. The README makes it sound about as difficult as clearing the Windspear Hills in one pass with a Chapter 3 party. Don't be fooled. Its approximate level of difficulty is closer to trying to do the Windspear Hills, Improved Mae'Var, the Unseeing Eye, Kangaxx, Improved Mind Flayers, and Lich in the Docks all in the same day. With a Chapter 3 party.

Stay the F*** away from Shadow Thief Improvements if you think there's a chance you might possibly be inclined to work for Bodhi ever again. [/QUOTE]So do you recommend this Mod or not, Six? [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img]

Seriously though, I appreciate the advice. I'm having all manners of trouble with my game and this is one of the mods I've installed. Guess it will also be the first one I UN-install in trying to fix my game.
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