hey, Assassin, that's a nice run down of our frustrations of liches
three questions,
1. breach is lvl 5 spell, isn't lich supposed to be immune to it (I did recall to read tons of "Elemental Lich: Spell ineffective" after I breach it over and over again in between its time stop+ imp. invisiblity re-buff)?
2. is the detect illusions you mentioned the thief's ability? (does that mean no mage/priest spell can dispel lich's invisibility?)
3. without being able to dispel the invisibility, only the breach wand and the old waiting for their wearing off their spells could work. and if I don't want to get to WK to get that Wand in SoA, I'll just need to stick to the wait/survive and kill tactic [img]graemlins/uhoh2.gif[/img]