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Old 11-30-2008, 01:26 AM   #19
Yorick
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Default Re: Terrorist attack hotels in Mumbai - 80 dead so far hundreds injured

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Originally Posted by Variol (Farseer) Elmwood View Post
yyyup, you're probably right,
I have not heard if this is being done in the name of "Ala" or just for the sake of terror.

I echo what Yorick is saying though. We all seem to get thrown into the same "religious" pot.

Christianity has made a bad name over the centuries with the atrocities committed in the name of God. I think we have learned a lot since then and it does not happen any more: except for the odd extremists, which we must always be wary of.

I don't know what these people are after. I wonder if most of them know it themselves.

The only real good thing (if you can call it that) is that is reminds me of how lucky I am to live here in Canada. Even my customer (they are all in the US) said yesterday "you never here anything bad happening in Canada".

Of course we have violence of sorts every day, but I know what she meant.

I can certainly empathize with you Felix. These stories really make my blood boil. I hate guns; I don't even like to touch them, but when hear this sort of thing, it does make me want to "take up arms".
But, I choose the latter. I pray and hope for peace. I pray I understand what has taken these people to the point where they would kill another human being. I can't even kill a bug; 'cept mosquito's..
I just don't know why we don't all start throwing generalisations around. Like:
1. Ah yes! It's the fault of property ownership once again!
2. Tsk tsk it's all because we have nations.
3. It's groups. There should be no groups allowed only individuals.

The whole shebang about Christianity getting a bad rap because of the crusades is the most tired hoohar around.
1. "Christendom" lost. The crusades were a disaster on every front and won by Islam.
2. "Going to war in the name of Jesus" is a contradiction if it's physical and involves killing. Surely that's evidence of a serious misunderstanding of christian theology.
3. You can check a person's stated beliefs against what they do. Generally speaking, and with exceptions, violence and war are the result of either religions FAILING, or religions being misused by people to motivate others to fight for them (ie. old men who preach martyrdom to Palestinian kids, but who don't martyr themselves)

I'd like to make one last generalisation about this conflict in Mumbai.

It's all the fault of the English. Wherever they ruled and then partitioned, violence has resulted: Palestine (partitioned into Israel and Jordan) Ireland (Ulster Unionists vs IRA) and India (partitioned into India, Pakistan and Bangladesh).

So it's all the fault of English bureaucracy. Roight????

Or we could just say that each individual is responsible for their own actions, and that the fault of what's happening in Mumbai is directly because these people have decided that violence and ending human lives to achieve their aims is somehow justifiable, and have acted accordingly.
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