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Old 11-04-2008, 11:30 PM   #59
Yorick
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Default Re: Election Question

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Originally Posted by Lavindathar View Post
Really love the way you guys obviously are addicted to Wikipedia, reasearching everything before you post.

With so many wiki links, and sources that so many of you provide, its actually hard to tell what your own opinions are nowadays.

I don't care if I'm sometimes wrong, at least its my opinion and what I know, and I don't have a second tab open with a Wiki on it to check every fact and figure.
1. I made the argument before I quoted wiki.

2. I posted an independent third party definition of the word I used to support that argument because you were ignoring the first hand evidence I supplied, despite my having spent time in England, USA and Australia.

3. It's standard debating protocol is to define terms.

But let's try some others shall we?

http://geography.about.com/cs/politi...tatenation.htm

While the terms country, state, and nation are often used interchangeably, there is a difference.
A State (note the capital "S") is a self-governing political entity. The term State can be used interchangeably with country.

A nation, however, is a tightly-knit group of people which share a common culture. A nation-state is a nation which has the same borders as a State.


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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/state

5 a: a politically organized body of people usually occupying a definite territory ; especially : one that is sovereign b: the political organization of such a body of people c: a government or politically organized society having a particular character
6: the operations or concerns of the government of a country


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http://ardictionary.com/State/14594

State 10

Definition: The bodies that constitute the legislature of a country; as, the States-general of Holland.

State 11

Definition: A form of government which is not monarchial, as a republic.

State 12

Definition: A political body, or body politic; the whole body of people who are united one government, whatever may be the form of the government; a nation.

State 13

Definition: In the United States, one of the commonwealth, or bodies politic, the people of which make up the body of the nation, and which, under the national constitution, stands in certain specified relations with the national government, and are invested, as commonwealth, with full power in their several spheres over all matters not expressly inhibited.

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