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Originally Posted by wellard so now we have gone from "it never happened" to arguing the details of what did happen .... my work here is done unless there are more people who still believe the world is flat or that no crimes against democracy have taken place .... goes off to look under more rocks for those still burying there head

If your work is to continue spouting improper data and blowing it out of proportion, then it still isn't done since Bung and I continue to provide documentation to refute it. So your "work" will have to continue in a vain attempt to make it sound as if you have a legitimate case.

A quick rebuttal for now (due to lack of time). A more thorough one later as time permits.

Your claim is that the election was "stolen". That didn't happen. You claim that "republican party officials" are in jail for tampering with the vote count has been soundly refuted by Bung. The fact is that only two election officials (not Republican party officials) were found guilty of basically being too lazy to fully count the number of required ballots by hand. That is two officials in one county out of the entire state of Ohio. These ladies were relatively minor in the overall scheme of things and could not affect any votes outside their own county. So what little they did still had NO EFFECT on the votes from the other 98 counties in Ohio.

So, let's review. These were local election officials, not "Republican party officials". They were convicted of not counting the number of ballots by hand that they should have, not of deliberately and specifically swinging the vote in Bush's favor. In fact, Bung correctly pointed out thier actions actually favored Kerry's results, not Bush's, but it still wasn't enough for Kerry to win their county.

That solidly refutes your claims that the 2004 election was "stolen" in Ohio. Your correct that two minor election officials didn't perform their job as required, but the fact is their actions were NOT significant enough to affect or sway the entire state.

The Florida election has been refuted as well. Not only was the announcement of Gore's victory premature, there were also hundreds (if not thousands) of absentee ballots from military personnel that some election officials tried to prevent from being counted. These ballots were largely conservative in their voting. The fact is that the votes in Florida in 2000 did favor Bush when all the votes had finally been counted.

But, please, don't let these trivial facts detract your continued shouting from the rooftops. If nothing else, you have proven your tenacity in the face of contradicting evidence. It's too bad you're not conservative, you would make a great reporter for Fox News.