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Old 08-27-2008, 11:23 PM   #61
Cerek
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Default Re: Barak Obama - Heir Apparant

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Originally Posted by SpiritWarrior View Post
But, he lied about one thing to get another thing entirely. What was untrue or inaccurate in Al Gore's movie, doesn't change the overall message. The message didn't for example, suddenly turn into "Let's attack Russia" from "Global warming is destroying our planet". People feel bush did a complete number on them. I feel Al Gore didn't, as the fact still remains that global warming is a huge threat.

The only way we could say that these situations are/were similiar is if I go back to my earlier example. If we were told there were 20 WMD's and we ended up with 10 I would say "Well, his info. had some inacuraccies in it but overall he was correct. There were WMD's and that's what we were told and that's what we got". Instead, we got none, but were told that Saddam was better off dead anyways. Can I get a 'Wtf was that about?'.
While I really don't want to go off on yet another tangent, there are a couple of considerations that should be remembered about the WoMDs. First, the U.N. tried using sanctions against Saddam Hussein for 12 years because they also believed he had manufactured WoMDs. The UN also demanded access to sites they believe contained these WoMDs on several occasions and Saddam consistently denied their request for several weeks each time. After 3-4 weeks, he would capitulate and allow the officials to inspect the chosen site. Is it really a surprise these places were clean when the inspectors got there? Yes, it's possible they were never there to begin with. But just imagine the police calling a suspected drug dealer and saying "We have a search warrant for your house" and the drug dealer saying "I cannot allow you access at this time." The police continue making requests followed by demands and finally search the house 3 weeks later. Does the fact that they find no drugs mean they were wrong about the guy being a drug dealer? Or is it possible he has removed all evidence of his drugs from the home and stored them in another location.

Saddam had 12 years to play this shell game with any WoMDs he may have had. He had another year before the U.S. military seized control of is country and began having access to search facilities themselves. Some trace evidence was found, but nothing on the scale expected. Maybe they never existed, or maybe Saddam had ample time to destroy all evidence or move them to an allied country. We'll never know for sure.

The comparison between the War in Iraq and global warmer are valid. Removing Saddam Hussein was always the goal of the invasion. But GWB apparantly didn't feel that goal alone would convince Congress to give him the green light for military action, so it's seems pretty certain he exaggerated the threat of WoMDs to get approval for his goal. Al Gore also exaggerates the threat in his message to get the end result he wants.

The two messages are not as dissimilar as they may appear.
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