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Originally Posted by Yorick
People learn from example. Imitation.
People formulate social behaviour and interaction through the learning situations in games.
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Well, yes. They do. That I find obvious. Where does game theory come into it? Or is it used in testing violent tendencies? Compare people's scores in Prisoner's Dilemma before and after two hours of video games?
Anyway, I don't see learning as much of a problem in this context. I guess it's possible to learn behaviour models from games, but they are also learned from the real world. And people learn the real-world behaviour earlier than the game behaviour, and attempting to apply game behaviour to the real world results in immediate punishment.
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Originally Posted by Yorick
The other posts backed up this by citing proof that video games, more so than movies (because you ARE the protagonist) increase violent, aggressive, de-social and anti-social behaviour in people.
It's over. It's proven. It's a fact.
We should just be arguing what we do about it. Arguing that games don't cause these things is like suggesting the earth is flat.
Get with reality and be constructive with solutions instead of arguing against proven facts.
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But weren't you arguing that video games make people kill people? That this guy stabbed a taxi driver because and only because he had been playing GTA? Because that's at least what I've been arguing against. There is a difference between "more violent" and "murderous". Video games do not turn you into a homicidal maniac.
I already commented in an earlier post on why we shouln't take the taxi stabber kid's assesment on his motives at face value, but I suppose I can do it again so others won't have to go looking for it.
Firstly, he killed a man. While this does not make him inherently untrustworthy, it means that his view on the matter can't be very objective. He could be trying to avoid blame by saying that the game made him do it.
Secondly, he's talking about his own motivations. I know I can't always say why I do stuff, and from what I've read, people don't often cosciously think of their motivations until afterwards. And if he really only wanted to know if stealing a car is as easy in real life as it is in game, why didn't he first check the internet or something?
On a somewhat unrelated note, Yorick, your analogy sucks. Psychology is a newer science than astronomy, and on the whole, a lot less accurate. And in any case, studies made on the effects of games on people are fewer in number and less conclusive (even withouth Jaradu's input) than studies made on the shape of the planet Earth. The round earth, unlike violence-inducing video games, is also required for several other technologies and theories (such as, say, astronavigation) to work.