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Originally Posted by Luvian And neither should M-Rated Games be in their hands either. Kids manage to get their hands on alcohol, so I suppose we should ban alcohol too. Oh! They also manage to get their hands on firearms. I guess we need to ban firearms! Oh no! Some kids could get his hands on his parent's car keys and go for a joyride! Let's ban cars too! What about lighters? Some kid could set fire to something. Let's ban lighters! Do I need to go on, or can we simply agree "Let's ban it because a kid could get his hands on it" doesn't make much sense as an argument? And no, the time argument still doesn't make sense. Kids shouldn't be in contact with these products so that would not be a restriction for kids, but for the legit adult customers. If you want to argue about limiting adults' access to adult products start another thread.

The problem with your examples is that none of them are specifically marketed towards teens and young adults. Video games are. That is why designers of the games need to be held to a better standard.

I agree completely parents bear the brunt of the responsibility. I do monitor the games my boys play, whether on a console or on the computer. However, that does not alleviate the responsibility borne by the manufacturers that produce the game.