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Originally Posted by WebShaman
Ok, folks.
It was amusing, interesting, and sometimes fascinating to read all the posts.
Time to drop the bomb.
X900BattleApple, I would be interested in what you think of the following :
I have the D2D version of NWN2. Obviously, this version has a one-time online activation system.
Please tell me why SecuRom is in it? I have no disk that I can run in my disk drive. I also do not need one.
I can happily burn as many copies of NWN2 as I want with my D2D version. So why is SecuRom packaged into it?
I know that SecuRom is packaged into it, because I have found it "hiding" in my reg files, and elsewhere. Also, if I have my Process Explorerrunning, NWN2 will not start.
Please tell me a good reason why SecuRom is included in my D2D version of NWN2 - obviously, it is semi-deactivated (but it will still prevent NWN2 from running if I have any of the SW installed that it does not like).
So if Atari thought that I did not need SecuRom to check a disk, allows me to copy my game to disk as many times as I want to, then WHY is SecuRom included in my version of NWN2?
My game is already validated through an online check.
SecuRom obviously serves no purpose, other than to prohibit me running various SW!
As one can see, one can obviously deliver NWN2 with other types of systems that validate if one is really a game owner.
I just cannot understand why SecuRom is bundled with this version! It serves absolutely no purpose, has absolutely no value in and of itself, and causes me only problems.
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I went ahead and found this at Atari's forum. As I indicated, with NWN installed on the old rig, yes, I could burn cds. However, the version of Securom used in NWN is not the same as the version that came on the disc with NWN 2, which I, as a fanboy of NWN, had to rush out and buy, just like everyone else. I had the money at the time, and it was available. The uninstall of NWN 2 on the old rig resulted in my having to format the harddrive, which I had assumed at the time it was a problem with the .NET framework stuff.
I indicated this in a previous discussion; I'm not prone to just jumping on any bandwagon. Discussion about other games having Securom has ocurred on other forums, and if that raises prices for other consumers, well, it's really not the fault of affected consumers, but publishers that don't care what their paying customers have to go through to use a product they purchased. I referrenced both NWN 2, and Bioshock as having problems with the newer versions of Securom, and a simple Google search will verify those without having to spend the countless hours I have spent reading post after post concerning the problems, and discussing them. You may feel free to have my posts censored at your leisure. You may insist on having them deleted as it conveniences you, but these facts will not go away with the deletion of my opinions, or posts.
:shrug: In some things, there is no point in discussion. As far as some people are concerned, this is an outright assault on what people see as a legitimate business. However, as Sony found out with their CD rootkit, there are laws, and there are new laws since then about secretly installing stuff with other software. Did a pop-up window come up during your NWN 2 installation telling you that software from Sony was being installed? Is it labelled anywhere on the box that a Sony product is included with the game? It's not on my box, and I had no such pop-up during installation. This is a secret.
My guilt lies in not doing more research before I installed, of that I take full responsiblility. However, I did not put this software on the disc. I did not hide it from the public, and I sure didn't intend to put anything by Sony on this rig. I won't even play any of cds I own on it, for fear of installing something like this on my PC. I can't remember the last new cd I bought, since Sony has their fingers in just about every major label. My Playstation, which was given to me, is a glorified cd player, because I will not support Sony. However, with the purchase of this game, I did. I did so unaware of it, and I installed it, also unaware of the problems it could, and is causing.