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Old 02-13-2007, 06:38 AM   #102
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Originally posted by Man Who Fights Like Woman:
Here's something interesting you may have missed.
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Experts agree that the WMD discussed in the report are older weapons, not new ones generated in the late 1990s
Sure sounds like the ones the US sold the Iraqis and not like ones they made themselves to me. So, not only was there no production as suspected, but they were probably no good. Not only that, but while we're making all these wild assumptions here, it's possible to assume that it was a lost stockpile. [/QUOTE]Nope, didn't miss it. In fact, if you check every other media source out there, their reaction is the same as yours, outright dismissal. Why? For basically the same reason; admitting that these weapons had been found, along with the seemingly regional, with the exception of Iran, approval of removing Saddam gives justification for the US to be in Iraq.

Note that in the definition of Mustard Gas that I posted, the delivery items that were found wouldn't have to function. Any conventional weapon would suffice to deliver it. Sounds like a terrible way to die too. But, that doesn't matter, since they don't exist, right? After all, they can't exist, or the US bashing becomes just that, US bashing. The very existance of these weapons would mean that maybe, just maybe, somebody grabbed some bad press, and ran with it, and instead of being willing to back pedal, they just forge on, kinda like Dan Rather, wasn't it? Who took a known forged document, but ran with the story behind it for political reasons. Seemed to be a successful tactic for him, didn't it.

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Cole translates what was said as "The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad)."

The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) translates the phrase similarly:
"[T]his regime that is occupying Qods [Jerusalem] must be eliminated from the pages of history."

So yeah a bit of a difference.


quotes taken from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud...jad_and_Israel
It just goes to show you, you can prove anything in the world you want to if you search long enough. I'd imagine you could find some other radical Imam to quote the line as, "We will send you flowers on the ocassion of your wedding", if you look hard enough. However, I'm betting that the second translation is closer to the truth.

Later Edit:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/nuke.htm


This is an older report, but says that by 2006, last year, Iran could have had nuclear weapons, based on known technologies they possessed at that time.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iran/nuke/index.html

Yet another report, with an admission by Iran that they have plutonium. These came from a simple Yahoo search. Evidence is out there, in the public sphere, I wonder what's out there that the public has no knowledge of?

[ 02-13-2007, 07:18 AM: Message edited by: robertthebard ]
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