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Leonis · 11-13-2006, 11:02 AM

Again, sorry Rikard, iPod batteries can be replaced. I know people love to rag on iPods almost as much as they do Microsoft, but mine works absolutely great. Definitely helps if you're on a Mac already. I think the major problems occur when you're doing the Windows/iPod combo...

Albromor, a big issue is size - if you're an audiophile, the bigger the better, and one codec I like is Apple lossless - at about 2/3 the size of a wav file (which ideally I want to listen to everything at) they save space with minimal degredation of audio quality. Basically mp3s are rotten. Rotten, rotten, rotten. Their compression and loss is so obviously audible, it's hideous.

And whatever you get, it's unlikely the supplied 'ear buds' will do anything justice. I listened to the iPod's for a minute; they were rotten too; and went straight back to my 10 year old Sony's. Have since bought some new ones.
With any digital device you have to remember that because we are analogue beings, the sole analogue component is one of the most vital elements to any player sounding good. We have ears. Therefore the thing you stick next to them needs to be quality or the whole point is moot...

I have other soundie mates who swear by their various iPod & Creative players. I personally have not come across a recommendation for any other brand, and I know a lot of sound engineers, musos and DJs who use them personally and professionally.

Summary: If you have a PC, maybe Creative is better, a Mac, maybe iPod.

Edit: Just remembered you said you have Windows (PC). I really think Apple stuff is all designed to go together and works wonderfully when you keep it so. So probably look at the Creatives? I don't know enough to talk about PC/iPod compatability.

[ 11-13-2006, 11:09 AM: Message edited by: Leonis ]

11-13-2006, 11:02 AM	#18
Leonis Join Date: March 6, 2001 Location: Somewhere on Earth - it changes often Posts: 1,292	Again, sorry Rikard, iPod batteries can be replaced. I know people love to rag on iPods almost as much as they do Microsoft, but mine works absolutely great. Definitely helps if you're on a Mac already. I think the major problems occur when you're doing the Windows/iPod combo... Albromor, a big issue is size - if you're an audiophile, the bigger the better, and one codec I like is Apple lossless - at about 2/3 the size of a wav file (which ideally I want to listen to everything at) they save space with minimal degredation of audio quality. Basically mp3s are rotten. Rotten, rotten, rotten. Their compression and loss is so obviously audible, it's hideous. And whatever you get, it's unlikely the supplied 'ear buds' will do anything justice. I listened to the iPod's for a minute; they were rotten too; and went straight back to my 10 year old Sony's. Have since bought some new ones. With any digital device you have to remember that because we are analogue beings, the sole analogue component is one of the most vital elements to any player sounding good. We have ears. Therefore the thing you stick next to them needs to be quality or the whole point is moot... I have other soundie mates who swear by their various iPod & Creative players. I personally have not come across a recommendation for any other brand, and I know a lot of sound engineers, musos and DJs who use them personally and professionally. Summary: If you have a PC, maybe Creative is better, a Mac, maybe iPod. Edit: Just remembered you said you have Windows (PC). I really think Apple stuff is all designed to go together and works wonderfully when you keep it so. So probably look at the Creatives? I don't know enough to talk about PC/iPod compatability. [ 11-13-2006, 11:09 AM: Message edited by: Leonis ]