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Old 10-04-2002, 10:43 PM   #4
True_Moose
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Join Date: June 18, 2002
Location: Wolfville, NS / Calgary, AB
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Originally posted by Iron_Ranger:
Well thats not entirley true, you point about some most being out dated isnt true. For instance, communism, real communism, the kind karl Marx envisioned, is never really out dated..Of course it can never really work, IMO, but the idea of all being equal, how can that ideal be out dated? Ever?.
The idea of equality goes against any human nature and instinct. You want the food more than anyone else, whether or not others have had it, for example. Natural competition. I agree with it never being able to work, and the ideal itself is to be strived for. Unfortunately, there is always a reason for one person to be "above" another. That's the fundamental problem with Marxism: only the very purest could possibly resist all the temptations at their disposal.
And it would be very difficult for such an environment to be achieved, because our current society is very individualistic.
Real communism is "utopia," but you must go through socialism first, in Marx's view. This is the same route taken by the Comite de Salut Publique during the French Revolution: the ends justify the means. After all, in executing the upper classes, is that not proving that they are unequal?
If there ever was a true communism though, it would be the pinnacle of humanity, total control over our earthly selves. And that is something to be strived for.
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