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Originally posted by Yorick:
Furthermore I made no judgement on how much someone values something. I actually clarified it if you would have read it. I distanced the amount seen from the amount valued. Again, read what I write Dio. Please!
Dio with either descriptive or prescriptive, something needs to exist for those "laws" to be enabled and work. Law is the word we have chosen to use to describe both, but this doesn't change the fact that without this particular earth or universe those "laws" would not exist. In that case the universe or planet itself is the "lawmaker", as a creator would be.
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Yorick, you keep alluding to assumptions I am supposedly making about your religious beliefs. I am not. I am basing my comments on what you say. I know nothing else about your personal religion nor presume to know. If I am misunderstanding, then I trust you will correct me as the conversation progresses
As for spiritual value, how could one measure it? You cannot simply quantify it. It defies quantificiation. I believe reality is such that people cannot escape being spiritual, whether they realize it or not, even atheists like Fljotsdale
-- even though I suspect she is a rare atheist who actually realizes the spiritual essence of life
Regarding the Cosmic Law Giver: Sorry, but I have never been moved by the Necessity of a Creator argument. Why can't you just accept that reality simply is? Why must you add the extra step of a creating force? There is no reason to assume as much, nor does it make logical sense. Eventually, you MUST accept that something can simply be -- whether it be God or the universe. If you can accept that, logically, then why take the extra step to begin with?