[Fljotsdale]

Originally posted by Diogenes Of Pumpkintown: What makes you so certain that your way of viewing is the only way to see and appreciate deeper, into the spiritual realm? To suppose so strikes me as approaching a sort of spiritual arrogance. Even an Atheist may perceive deeply into the nature of meaning. Who are you to say that you value a leaf more? Or life more? Or the universe more? Or all of existence? Presumptuous indeed. The Law requires a Maker argument is based on a logical fallacy, btw. It confuses different meanings of the word "Law." Man-made "law" is Prescriptive -- it is a command ordering either to do an act refrain from an act. "Law" in this sense does require a lawgiver. A command implies a commander. The laws of Nature, on the other hand, are merely Descriptive -- they are descriptive models which humans have formulated from observation which describe how nature and the universe does in fact behave, not orders or commands for it to behave a certain way.

Thank you, Diogenes!! You put it MUCH better than I did!



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