[Fljotsdale]

Originally posted by Yorick: Law does need a giver. If a law is deemed "natural" by a humanist, then nature is deemed to be the lawmaker. The earth or the universe itself. The value in seeing a designer, is that the beauty has a reason. A purpose. It can be related to. Put simply with belief I can appreciate everything about a leaf the nonbeliever does - and then some. Rather than just the physical there is the spiritual appreciation.

LOL! For me, my friend, it's the other way round - I appreciate it more because of LACK of 'spiritual' appreciation. It makes me realise I can't depend on a higher power to fix the damage we are doing to the environment - we have to work for it ourselves!
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