[John D Harris]

Originally posted by Thoran: I don't understand why there aren't 50000 troops on the ground in New Orleans... we can mobilize troops and send em halfway around the world with heavy armor and for some reason we can only deliver 1500 a day to one of our own states. WTF!!

Phsyics, man phsyics It took nearly 6 MONTHS to get enough troops into the area for the first gulf war, several months to get troops for the second and they already had nearly half there. The troops have to be called up, guess what the governors of the states can also do that. Why haven't they done that? And don't try to give this:

Originally posted by Gangrell: Not sure, probably because most soldiers are already being used in Iraq to fight for oil so they're probably not about to pull them out. Edit - Worded differently.

Thislogic is ASSININE(as in having the qualities of an ASS) There about 130,000 troops in Iraq there are over 1,500,000 troops that can be called up or on active duty? 1,500,000 minus 130,000 that leaves 90% still availible to be deployed. Now that I got the BS crying Politic crap out of the way. The troops must be called up that takes time, they have to come from their homes and meet at their Guard armories. Now you have to wait until you get everybody there or at least enough of them. Now they have to load up and move to another location, gather supplies, that means pick stuff up(by hand most of the time) and pack them into trucks. Have any of you ever moved and packed a truck? did it happen in 2 minutes or did it take all damn day? And that is to load only the stuff for one family. These guys have to load enough stuff for them and everybody else down there. It sure as "Hale" isn't going to happen in a hour or two. Now remember boys and girls StarTrek is fantasy, ther are no transporters or stargates or any of that kinda stuff. This is the real world things take time, and I don't mean 48 mintues plus commercials. Now after they got all the stuff they are going to need loaded up, they have to DRIVE there. I'm not gettting on to you Thoran, but I've noticed allmost all the posters are not from Hurricane prone areas. If you haven't been through one you don't have a clue. And if you've been through one, you sure as "Hale" Know this was the Mother of all hurricanes. 90,000 square Miles of destruction did you people read what I wrote? 90,000 SQUARE miles. to give you a point of referance Hiroshima maybe 10 square miles of destruction, and that is being very very very generous. Ziroc has been through Charlie this thing makes Charlie look like a spring thunder strom. This thing dwarfs Opel, even make Camille look like the second string. If you have been through and F5 tornado just imagine 100,000 times as much area damaged. We are in west central Alabama we only got strong TS winds with some gusts to hurricane force. UNTIL THIS MORNING Ala 69 a MAIN north-south hwy through the state still had sections blocked and you could not travel on. You had to use other routes, well other routes take more time, if they didn't they would be the main routes. Now you've got to add the amount of time it takes to get everybody together, then add the time it takes to get them to where all the stuff is at, then add the time it takes to load the stuff up. then add the time it takes to drive to where you are going. Now once you get there you don't just rush in and SAY I'll turn down the first right, you turn down the first left, and so forth and so forth. If you did something that stupid you'd be in even a bigger world of hurt. you'd have you stuff all over the place and not where everybody was or how get back up with each other ot distribute the stuff. They have to find out what routes inside the city they can drive, Remember not all the roads are passable. That just gives you people a hint of some of the problems. Any of IW that have ever had to do a deployment like this is laughing at me because they KNOW I've left out many more time consumming things that has to happen on a deployment.

NOW if you look at the damage Mississippi took a HELL of a lot more damage then New Orleans. New Orleans is a realtively SMALL area with supposidly a government infrastructure, why they even had a police force to keep order in the city. As of monday evening and tuesday morning the levy had not broken, the where a few small breaches but not the major flooding. DOES anybody REMEMBER THE morning after how the NEWS was preaching New Orleans had been spared again? So you've got what troops you got headed to the worst hit area *Ding *Ding *Ding we have a winner IT is MISSISSIPPI. The NG are working their way their. Then the levy breaks and people start their crap, the COPS of the city are looking for people to rescue trying to save lives, as are the Guard that are in New Orleans. A bunch of low life sacks of horse manure start looting, and acting like they are living in some post apocalyptic movie, or worse like they are in Africa in one of those war torn countries. Now add to that there were a lot of SHEEP there just waiting to be told what to do, instead of getting off their rear ends and going they waited for somebody to come along and carry them away.

[ 09-02-2005, 05:39 PM: Message edited by: John D Harris ]